No🚫 Cap🧢 In My Rap 🗣️
No🚫 Cap🧢 In My Rap 🗣️
Bucko x OG Mike x RobSkiii: The Truth Nobody Asked for, but Everyone Needs
What happens when three friends and a special guest throw conventional relationship wisdom out the window? Pure, unfiltered truth bombs that might just transform how you approach your own relationships.
Diving headfirst into challenging topics, this episode explores whether men genuinely enjoy spending time with women beyond physical attraction, sparking powerful revelations about societal conditioning versus authentic connection. The hosts share personal moments of clarity that changed their perspectives on partnership—like realizing someone has fundamentally shifted your energy or recognizing when you've found a person who makes you want to leave the streets behind.
Gender roles take center stage as the conversation evolves into questioning why we cling to outdated expectations in 2025. The hosts advocate for focusing on household functionality rather than arbitrary gender-based divisions, challenging listeners to create relationship models that serve their unique dynamics rather than conforming to societal pressure. "If it works for your house and y'all happy, why do you care what someone else thinks?"
The most provocative segment tackles brutal honesty in relationships. Do we truly want the unvarnished truth, or are we secretly seeking comfortable lies? The hosts argue that while delivery matters tremendously, sacrificing integrity to protect feelings creates unsustainable relationships. As one host powerfully states, "I'm not willing to sacrifice my core values to make you feel better."
Special guest Ali brings fresh female perspective to dating dynamics, discussing how intention shapes experiences and the importance of transparent communication. The discussion reveals how misaligned expectations about everything from dinner dates to pornography consumption create relationship conflicts that could be avoided through honest dialogue.
Whether you're navigating dating waters, questioning societal norms in your relationship, or struggling with truth-telling, this episode delivers practical wisdom wrapped in entertaining stories—including one involving a ferret that you'll have to hear to believe. Subscribe now and join the conversation about creating authentic connections in a world full of convenient fictions.
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Yo, yo yo what's going on. It's your boy, dj Bucko. I got my boy, rob Ski, in the OG mic in this thing. Man, happy Cinco de Mayo. Brothers, brothers, brothers, how we doing what's happening, what's happening.
Speaker 2:Missing the tequila baby.
Speaker 1:Man we supposed to be on Repo man, I had plenty of tequila yesterday, though I'm on tequila now. I don't need no more tequila. Uh, happy, single the bio. Y'all glad to have another episode. No cap my rap. I am your host, dj bucko. Again, this is my boy, rob ski. My boy og mike guys. Um, we know we gotta get into. We're doing something a little different to y'all. No, I mean single the mayo. We feel a little little hot, bloody. I want to go into some hot takes, some hot takes. Um, I feel like a hot take for me and I'm actually gonna go ahead and bust in right now. I'm going to I know, I know I was talking about who going. I'm going and busting my hot take. You know my, my hot take is and guys, we listen and we don't judge just a little bit just a little bit.
Speaker 1:My, my hot, my hot take is that, um, I was around a group and it's 2025 and I was under the influence to understand that, as men, we don't like to be men without our women. We don't want to be men with our women, and what I mean by that is a perfect example. I had a situation where I was listening to a podcast. I had a situation where I was listening to a podcast. I was listening to Cam Newton and this dude. He was like heterosexual men don't want to. They don't want to value a woman, but just sexually they don't want to like be sweet and nice and courteous. Like it's weird to them. Like we don't like being around women is what he said Kind of threw me off.
Speaker 1:Like we want women for what they are on a sexual level or on a level of companionship, but do we really like being around their ass like that, for real? That's? That's a crazy hot take. No, no, it is. No, I know it is. I'm being real, I want to be real. Like, like, do you think so? Like being around your woman is cool, I love women, I love don't get twisted, but do you ever just feel like god damn, like I just want some. Like it feels like you don't want your own space, your own time, your own like your own, like energy away. I mean, it's a good question, there's nothing wrong with the question, so let's, let's get into it. We listen and we don't judge.
Speaker 2:We listen and we don't judge.
Speaker 1:I mean, if you want my aspect or my take on it, I personally love being around my wife, so I can't really understand what they're saying, other than the fact they haven't found that one yet. Okay, because I can tell you, before my wife I was outside, I think I said that in our last episode.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was outside. I think I said that in our last episode. Yeah, I was outside. That's what I wanted to do. That's where I wanted to be. I wanted to be outside. So it was less that I didn't like women. I was looking for more women and they were outside.
Speaker 1:If you stay in the house with the woman that you got, then you can't find the rest of the women. You got to go outside to get them. So I can understand that when you find the one, all of that becomes irrelevant and you enjoy being with your woman so you're saying it's the timing of life for you, for bucko, no for you.
Speaker 1:So for what he's saying, yeah, for me, yeah, it's definitely uh like, not even just timing of life, because I could possibly be still in that area or that realm if I hadn't found my one gotcha, you understand what I'm saying. But once I found her and once you know, solidified her position and my position in marriage and you know, mental commitment, like I really do like this. You have to talk to yourself. They say geniuses talk to themselves. Facts. I really do like this person.
Speaker 1:And that's really how we got to marriage in the first place is it's because it's like and then you're in the beginning, you're not just well, I know I'm not, I'm just not pussy wood. So you go visit and then you leave. The aha moment was every time I left. I wanted to go right back. That feeling was like damn, I'm not happy outside, no more. You understand what I'm saying. So that's a different, that's a different mindset, that's a different feeling. That's a different. When you know that this person is your, everything, this person is where you want to be, everything else becomes irrelevant.
Speaker 3:I like that.
Speaker 1:I like that and it's like to a point for me where I, I, people change, people change and you gotta grow with people. But I like that, I like your um, I like your take on that. I never really the feeling of having that feeling of knowing you want to leave and be right back. I was.
Speaker 2:That's where I'm at. It's the like side. Rob said it before I could say it. We focus on whatever you focus on to get in that relationship or get the woman. Do you like the woman, not what she look like. Do you like her? Do you like her character? Do you enjoy this woman outside of sex? And most men don't have that honest conversation and most women don't accept the honesty of the man if he is that. This what it is for real. And, like rob said, I fell in love with my wife because I didn't want to leave and she had her clothes on. It wasn't you know, I'm saying like she was just a cool ass person and we hung out and we hung out and we enjoyed each other and then I didn't want to, like you said, didn't want to leave. I got stuck in a snowstorm with my wife, bro.
Speaker 1:She probably was sick of me, why we got a similar experience.
Speaker 2:And you know we was dating. I done slid off the highway for her Bro. She like it off the highway for her bro. She like you gonna leave. I'm like, I'm calling out of work, like it was weird. And then I remember just talking to my mom like I don't know why I like her, but it was just her, it was her energy. She changed the energy in the in the world for me. I didn't change for her, but I wanted her energy damn near crashed my car in a snowstorm.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I slid off an overpass.
Speaker 1:Just like my boy.
Speaker 2:But the other side. Now speaking to the men's side, men don't like women. I think it's because men don't. We aren't supportive to my boy that got one Facts, Because we look at it like you a sucker, or you was raised that way.
Speaker 2:You a lame? Yeah, how many of us grew up in a home where you saw your father or any man love your mother. So you didn't get that energy to see like, hey, my mom's a good woman, this man's taking care of her or treating her right. For me it was the streets, like I grew up with a single mom, I go outside. You got one girlfriend, you a sucker, you treating her well. You was like so when you, when you would grow up in that energy, that's what you know until you grow out of it. Unfortunately, some men don't grow out of it or they don't have men in their life that they respect enough to check them.
Speaker 1:to check them on it, yeah have real conversations also also like growing up. You're taught that you're not supposed to be loyal to a person that isn't going to be loyal to you like men are taught that we're taught. We're taught that the female isn't going to be loyal to you. Like men are taught that we're taught we're taught that the female isn't going to be loyal. So why be loyal, why start out that way, when you're probably not the only dude? That's not wrong to think like, but that's what we're taught as young men. Like your older men in your life will tell you yeah, don't be a sucker.
Speaker 2:Like your uncles will tell you yeah, they sucker free, sucker free Stay sucker free.
Speaker 1:But in our aspects it does make sense because if you're young, starting out, young dating, how many people you know still with their middle school person? I don't know none.
Speaker 2:High school person right, but that goes with parenting, whether you're getting parent from your parent or somebody else that love you. That's giving you the real, that middle school conversation yeah, it makes sense, but it's layers too. Who telling you right now it's not the time? But when you just say a blanket statement and stick on it, nobody gets that back in and you just run with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you 14 and then you 24, thinking the same as you Same as you was at 14, which is kind of hard to do, but we do it. It's supposed to be a follow-up conversation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like you got to elevate the conversation, it's a growth conversation.
Speaker 1:All right. Now you're at this age, Now you're doing these things.
Speaker 1:And that's the step that's missing Now you're in this space, here's what you should be doing now. And I to my and I think that's the biggest part of my hot take the people that was having that conversation, that were talking to me. They were a little younger, so when they said it I'm like nah, I love women. What are we talking about? But then I think, when he explained it, like I just don't like being around a bitch and I was like I mean, well, we do have to acknowledge that there are some men who do not like women.
Speaker 2:So we got to make sure we be clear when I asked that question.
Speaker 1:I was talking to my heterosexual men.
Speaker 2:No, he's saying that too, I'm saying that too.
Speaker 1:There's some heterosexual men who hate women yeah. You got to think about some men who are consistently domestically violent. They don't like women.
Speaker 2:They're consistently I got you, I got you.
Speaker 1:That type mentality. Okay, we're on the same level. There is some men who just don't like women when you said that I was like whoa.
Speaker 2:I got you. We always talk about a hurt woman or a hurt man, which is why you have to be careful who you listen to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Hurt men are diabolical too. Hurt men A woman's scoring, they said, but a black woman, a man's heart, though it's gone. That's my take, though, and I appreciate y'all for that. You know, you said something, actually. You said you grew up with a single mom. What about you? Yeah, definitely single mom household, bro. I was raised by women Grandmas, aunties. You know what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying, mom, I got the game.
Speaker 1:Pac said, I got the game from a woman. That's why you a smart man. For me, I had a mom, but this is the hard part for me. This is my end of my take. I had a mother and a father and I seen it, but it wasn't what it was supposed to. Well, I know it wasn't what it was supposed to be, but I was tricked into thinking something Broken is broken Broken Because I had mom and dad there and it was cool.
Speaker 1:You know, I knew he. I knew my pops loved my mom. I knew my pops loved me. He didn't show it. You know what I'm saying, and I think now, when you say what you said about men not really loving, like liking women, I think my dad was, so he's changed now with his second wife, but with my mom, though, he was very. This is the law of the household, this is how I want it. So when you said that, that kind of touched me differently. It made sense when you said, maybe men that don't like women but want to be respected, because I feel like my father always told me growing up, I'd rather be respected than loved.
Speaker 1:I think, that's also another generation.
Speaker 2:I was just about to say that.
Speaker 1:Because your dad's in a different generation.
Speaker 2:When was your dad born?
Speaker 1:My dad was born in 1969.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a different generation, bro.
Speaker 1:He saw a different side of life Then he was his dad in his life, yeah, but see my dad, yeah, basically he wasn't his real dad, but he was his.
Speaker 2:He had a man there. He had a man there right.
Speaker 1:You get to that generation and the generation before them and the generation before them.
Speaker 2:They had hardcore gender roles, which is there was no space for this conversation can go so many ways it can go so many different ways, because that's really what's wrong with 2025 is this we standing on stuff that don't even apply? No more Tell me more Well the gender role thing, gender roles yeah.
Speaker 2:Somebody a holler tradition on one side, but they don't live by the tradition. So why are we bringing that up? And access is different. Life wasn't that? When that tradition stood, men and women can both make good money. A man or woman can do the child wearing. Take care of the kids, it doesn't matter. Focus on your household. We so worried about the outside world, what it look like on instagram? Live your life. If this works for your house, why are you worried about the next house? Worry about if your wife want to cut grass. Do it look weird to you? Maybe? My wife cut the grass. That's dope. When my sons got older, she stopped, but there was a time she said I liked it, that's dope. Well, I'm a fighter for that. You know what I'm saying. Nah, I'm supposed to do this shit. Baby, let me do this. I started.
Speaker 1:I started like no, that's my job, I did. I started. I was like hell, nah, I got it.
Speaker 2:I didn't say it was my job, but I paid somebody. You know what I'm saying. It's my responsibility.
Speaker 1:Whether or not I did it or paid somebody. That's in my playbook, but I had to understand again.
Speaker 2:communication I think we talked about it a few years ago.
Speaker 1:She explained I like cutting grass. She said she never got the opportunity to do it in her house because of gender specific roles. That was in her dad's realm, so cutting grass wasn't an option for his daughters. Yeah, so as she got older she's always wanted to do it. Yeah, and you know, having her own home, she was able to do it, so she wanted to get that experience. So once I took the time to actually listen to why she even attempted to cut the grass, it made sense and I was like all right, babe, go ahead, handle that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:And it's okay to have some of them. My wife, she don't cut the grass now, but she did, but she ain't touching no trash, that's okay, I'm trying to give them.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to give them, motherfuckers, that shit Right now.
Speaker 2:They'll never take.
Speaker 1:That trash out.
Speaker 2:Hey, I'm cool with that. What's that?
Speaker 1:The trash. Yeah, listen, my wife ain't got Touched trash. She ain't, we ain't got to. I'm just saying you need to know how I would love one day, when you gather that shit up, put it on top. Of you know, I'd still. An apartment, throw it on in there because I'm shit. The trash to me is like that's something I know a woman won't do, but washing dishes. That's my first job in college. Yeah, I wash dishes left and fucking right. I don't have a problem washing dishes but see, that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2:It doesn't matter to take the gender role bullshit out of the equation. Do what you want to do, bro. Who cares? If it works for you, it works. If it works for your house and y'all happy, why do you care? I don't understand people worrying about somebody else and how they run their house, like if I talk to my homeboy, I mean, a woman can't do that in my house. Fuck your house. That's cool. I'll give you an example. Huh, my playing ball got cool with his family Black family. Okay, the mom hit it off with my wife. She needed a friend, so she started hanging out with my wife. I assume, like in hindsight, I guess she was changing a little bit because my wife's free. I don't know, she's not a slave or I don't control her, but the chick stopped coming around, right? The?
Speaker 1:friend the wife.
Speaker 2:Trying to figure it out. So then it was like the playoff game or something Dude. That never came over. He came watched the game with me. My wife is an adult, she's cussing. My wife is an adult, she's cussing. He goes to me. I mean, your wife always cussed this much. But he said it in a tone of like, put her in her place, type shit, it's a nigga too he black.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they both black Okay okay, I'm like, yeah, bro, she a grown ass woman. She ain't cussing nobody out, she just saying cuss words. We grown. We never saw them again.
Speaker 1:You never see them again, Never see them again. He went home and said God damn it, Sandro.
Speaker 2:Why the fuck?
Speaker 1:you have me over there with them niggas, them niggas over there, different Hell. Nah, hey, was he bald headed. He was bro. That difference he hell. Nah, hey, was he ball headed. He was a crazy ass, nigga. It'd be the ball head, niggas army ball head army oh cool, dude cool.
Speaker 2:But but he wasn't. He was a controller, bro. Yeah, I was gonna say that's, that's a control. His son was cold on our little basketball.
Speaker 1:They 10 hooping he didn't want his woman getting. He said his son can't hoop.
Speaker 2:I'm like, bro, I'm about to win a championship with him. No, you're not, we won. The son can't hoop. I'm like, bro, I'm about to win a championship with him. No, you're not, we won the championship. Like he hated on it, I'm like he was just that type of guy. Hating on his own son. But that tells me you ain't the type of guy for me to be close with.
Speaker 1:I can't fuck with you.
Speaker 2:I'll be cool with you. I'll speak to is your house, mine is mine, but I don't care how you run yours and nothing you say or do can dictate what the I'm doing.
Speaker 1:Mom, that man said that man said hey, he went home, he had a whole talk. Let me tell you something don't get no idea what the they're doing over there.
Speaker 2:True story bro over here but she was on her allowance. Life was different for allowance. A grown woman with allowance that nigga.
Speaker 1:That nigga was holding her hostage right bro, different situation, you know them, type them, type of men find weak minded women on purpose. That's usually a black man against a white woman.
Speaker 2:That's usually you got my black woman. It's in every.
Speaker 1:We gonna get to that it's in every culture, it ain't just. That's a fact. I never thought about that Typically, I would figure we would try to. I guess you're right. Black women strong. I ain't never met a non-wannabe strong black woman at a grown age. She was probably over 30, 40, right, oh yeah, she was. So she already had been probably processed and been with him it was different.
Speaker 2:You know they've been together since.
Speaker 1:you know they was young. He got a train. Then, yeah, he got it down pat, he been doing this. He knew what time it was.
Speaker 2:That's just too much thinking, bro. If I got to control you, that means I'm thinking for you.
Speaker 1:Thinking for you, yeah when you going, what you doing?
Speaker 2:I ain't got time time.
Speaker 1:It's just like PK, kids, pastor kids, pk be freaky. Once they figure out how to get out the house and away, they live their life. That woman going to figure that shit out eventually? I hope so, and when she do, his whole world going to fall apart. Oh yeah, it's going to take that one night, but that's the reason why when you said you never seen him again, he couldn't have her getting no ideas.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you ain't free. He can't be saying what you want to say.
Speaker 1:That was crazy. He couldn't have her. Crazy bro, he, like Massa, can't have this shit. God, stupid. That's my take True story. If you could, I definitely want next take, next take, next take, next take what you got, mike Lyra.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go with. Stop lying to yourself and saying you want to keep it a hundred with me. Be real. I want you to be honest. We really just want the lie and feel good.
Speaker 1:We want the lie and feel good. We want to lie to feel good. So are we talking about in general I don't keep it.
Speaker 2:in general, we can do the layers. Okay, but in general, how that taste, what I look like. You don't want the truth. You don't want the truth.
Speaker 1:I got you.
Speaker 2:You don't want the truth. I can't stand that Nah and I can't stand that, nah, and I'm not built for that.
Speaker 1:So what are you going to do? You going to tell the truth? Are you going to keep it real? I've learned you enough to know.
Speaker 2:What I've learned is if I love you and I fuck with you, I got to be honest I'm a lot to a stranger because I'm never talking to them again. I feel that Ain't no reason to hurt your feelings because you can't cook chicken that I'm not going to eat, no way. Ever, again, but me and my wife had that conversation. I don't want you to mess this meal up and then I lie and say I like it and then you cooking it every week.
Speaker 1:And wasting money and wasting your time and effort on something that really I don't fuck with.
Speaker 2:Tell me the truth If I miss. I mean, that wasn't it today? You right, I felt it too.
Speaker 1:You burnt this, this shit. Yeah, if it's too much salt, too much onion, yeah, whatever it is.
Speaker 2:Hey, man, you did too much. You cooked it too long. A little dry Tell me the truth. A little sauce I don't get the. Hey how I look in this. And the man tell like she representing you and you be like how you look good.
Speaker 1:No she looked basic.
Speaker 2:No, that ain't it today.
Speaker 1:But I'd be scared, but I'd be afraid of okay, we know damn well your ass don't look good in them jeans. But I'm going to tell you yes, because I'm going to hype you up no.
Speaker 2:Hype the right way.
Speaker 1:Hype the right way, them jeans right, there ain't it Shit don't work. It don't work. Let's try a different pair.
Speaker 2:And if you don't have, I go in the closet to help you find it.
Speaker 1:If you don't, have any, especially if you're my woman, I'm saying you belong to me. I'm going to go buy you a pair that look right like I gotta. I gotta invest in you. Hopefully you invest in me and we should be investing each other. You know, sometimes that goes to um building people up, and I'm not going to lie to you because it's not going to help build you up, because you're not learning, or I'm putting you in a situation where you look stupid in public, right, but I'm the person that you trust, so I set you up for failure. There it is.
Speaker 2:I got you and then take it to your children. Okay, you hyping them up, you're lying to them. Then they go outside and get told the truth or be hurt. Now you think they're going to talk to you as they get older.
Speaker 1:No, you're not honest with me.
Speaker 2:You didn't keep it real with them. So the problem is the person receiving it wants their feelings to be protected. When I'm saying saying from somebody you love and respect, you should want them to be honest with you first take.
Speaker 1:They bully people. Can't people can't hate handle the truth man, that's, that's my point. They can't, but they say they want it even, even with that, bro, I, I really and I don't know it's just me I don't really care what you can handle. I, I really don't. That's real love. I don't care because at the end of the day, I cannot be a liar.
Speaker 1:I cannot bro, my own value, my own self values would not allow me to be a liar see, and that's why I picked this, because I knew Rob would say that yeah. I can't do it so I'm not going. I'm not willing to sacrifice my core values to make you feel better. I gotta do better as a man because lying ain't in my core values. I got to do better.
Speaker 2:That's the problem with a lie, bro. You got to keep it going forever. I don't have that energy.
Speaker 1:I'm tired, I don't want to keep remembering the lie that I fucking told you. I'd rather tell you the truth and let you deal with it.
Speaker 2:I'll let you be mad temporarily.
Speaker 1:It'd be hard. It'd be temporary, but it'd be hard. I lied to you. I lied to you but the thing is are you so? The truth, the truth is important. Yes, sir, am I telling the truth to be malicious and hurt your feelings?
Speaker 3:or am I telling?
Speaker 1:the truth, because you need to hear it and I want to help you get better at whatever the fuck it is we're talking about, right? So I think intent matters, and if you're not communicating what your intent is, then that's bingo. I think that's bigger the intent. I think that's something. Maybe I should have to work on the intent of what I'm, why I'm, why I'm lying to you I can't, I can't say, uh, not outfit trash, and then walk the fuck away, right that's a problem I have to tell you all right, this color don't go with that color, or this material don't go with that material.
Speaker 2:Or whatever, let's change the shoes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's change the suit. Let's put the hat on scarf. Uh, let's change the purse up like whatever it is it's making, throwing it off, I gotta go through the gram and find a picture like remember this, like let's try this out.
Speaker 2:It's ways to say it. That's what I learned. Even in honesty, the difference is how you say, how you deliver the message.
Speaker 1:If I care, now I think about it a little more, I take my time, before it's just I shoot out the gate same same thing where uh mike was talking about like, uh, the dinner, like it don't taste right if I just be like no, it's nasty, and throw the plate away yeah, that's disrespectful, that's disrespectful, like it's something about it maybe if you put too much salt. But what if instead I say yeah, baby, it's good. Why would you do that?
Speaker 2:Why would you do that?
Speaker 1:She's going to cook it the same exact way again. And then I'm going to put the phone up to paper plate.
Speaker 2:Just say, for example she got a potluck at work.
Speaker 1:You done. Told her this shit's good she take it to work. I ain't eating that shit. And now her shit is just sitting on the table and nobody ate it. She figured out.
Speaker 2:No, you supposed to have made sure that she didn't make that mistake.
Speaker 1:But, but okay. So with food it's so subjective, but I understand your concept. Food I'm a big thing. I like to eat. Do this inside clothes. I'm not subject with that, because I mean women. A lot of women are very aware of what they got on their body, what they're doing. But what about a situation more of like that's like something a little more juicy, like a woman's like hey, I'm about to be here tonight, like I'm about to go to this bar tonight, okay, cool. And you ask her hey, when she comes home, hey, where'd you go last night? She said I told you I went to the bar. You know she lied right, because you've got her location.
Speaker 3:You listen to everything.
Speaker 1:You see, she went to Mimi's crib. After she went to Mimi's crib she went to the bar she said she was going to. She left the bar she was going to, went back to another bar, then went back to Mimi's to drop her off, then went somewhere else and came back home. But she tells you oh, last night, yeah, she went to the bar last night. Is that a lie? Or is that just she held the truth? For what's really going on?
Speaker 2:So before we get to her, why'd you?
Speaker 1:ask Because I knew the truth and I want to see if you're going to tell me the truth. So you looking to catch her or you? I want to see if you're going to be honest, because I feel like when you ask a question of how I look in these clothes, I think they already know the answer. They want to know if you think it's bullshit too. So I be thinking it's the same thing.
Speaker 2:So I would say, it's all how you approach it, okay, because if you go to me, that's, I'm trying to catch you, if I know where you went and I asked you and you just give me one place, that's not a lie.
Speaker 1:It's also what your intentions are Correct To happen next.
Speaker 2:Exactly. That's why I asked why'd you ask? Because you're looking for more details. Does it really matter she stopped at Mimi's house or they went to the store? No, you want a full story which comes off, as I want to fuck this relationship up.
Speaker 1:And did you ask the right question.
Speaker 2:Right, you're already seeing where the fuck she went. I could. Okay, so you've seen it. I've seen it. Okay, so it's two parts of that.
Speaker 1:She gave. She gave you the location. She know you seen, right, you have it. She knows she didn't forget you had it okay when I left the house.
Speaker 2:I'm going out to the bar with my friend, the. The trip in between is it really valid to care?
Speaker 1:not really. She's supposed to tell you I'm gonna stop here, I'm gonna stop here, I'm gonna stop here, I'm gonna stop here, and then we're gonna go to the bar.
Speaker 2:That what you want it nah, or because if you just want to know why, then approach it that way. I mean, I just happened to see that you made a few stops, right? Why? Now you could, because I'm not accusing you of something, now, I don't have to keep it from you. Now we can just have this open dialogue, because really bro.
Speaker 1:Or do you want to know who the fuck was at mimi house? Yeah, like that's that too. That too I want that's, that's, that's, that's another good question who was at mimi's house.
Speaker 2:I mean, I saw you at the mimi house, but you don't have any arguments.
Speaker 1:I feel like that starts in the black house.
Speaker 2:But see, I think it's different. See, what happens is we? We haven't started this shit on simple conversation? True, we are not communicating well, so now I got to be Detective Private Eye. I'm with Rob Bro. Early on I was that guy and you know what I'm going to. We fighting tonight.
Speaker 1:Not for real.
Speaker 2:We're going to have a conversation about this Because I want you to know that I can have a healthy conversation, that we can talk through it and get past it, because if you let that problem fester now you're creating a story and everybody do it and then that's the.
Speaker 1:That's. That's fear of communication, correct? Are you afraid to lose the argument? Are you afraid of the debate?
Speaker 2:and it goes back to what I just said, though you don't want the truth there you go there, you go.
Speaker 1:No, that's what it is.
Speaker 2:I'm afraid of the real and that's, and that's what you what you think the truth, that's what I think it may be, and that's what I'm afraid of. Truth, I'm afraid of the truth.
Speaker 1:I'm a great debater. I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2:We gonna talk about it if I wanna talk about it bro, everybody can go outside and slide, if you, if you sit and think about that out there y'all, you don't have time, I'm not afraid to have the dialogue, because if you ask me, I'm going to tell you, and so I expect the same.
Speaker 1:And if we can't communicate, that's the problem for me the non-ability. The non-verbal communication. So let's change the scenario real quick. I don't got the location, but my homeboy did security at the spot. My homeboy told me he seen her here and she wasn't here. I'm like, oh shit, she was here. But she told me she was here. So then I don't have location. So then I asked that question. But I had the answer. So then how would you approach? Then how would you ask, because you know she was somewhere else I'm never you don't care I'm I don't do that.
Speaker 1:He say she say Right Really for any situation. I don't really trust a lot of people that much and If you're with someone You're supposed to trust that person. True Right.
Speaker 2:And if you don't trust them, then you really shouldn't be with them, that's hard, it is hard, but that's what make it work, though, because you put in the work I'm going to, unless they showed me something different.
Speaker 1:I'm going to assume that it wasn't important, even if, say, you stopped at the gas station or stopped at the grocery store or stopped to get a bite to eat and that wasn't in the conversation. I'm not going to assume that you intentionally you're trying to mislead me just because you told me you went to whatever restaurant.
Speaker 2:When you live in life and something happens, unless it's detrimental to your day or your life, you're not recording it Right. So things can happen. Facts I can say it was 10 minutes, but it really was 20.
Speaker 1:It's not because I'm lying. You tell me you seen. You seen her with a nigga kissing or fucking or no? That's different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you just say I seen her at the store, or even no, he, she was at that bar, not the other Facts. Hey, we pulled up. It was whacking there. Don I get that, don't you bar up?
Speaker 1:I get that. I do, women do too. But if you ask a question, that goes back to the hot take though, if she asked me, I just feel like sometimes women ask questions because they know the answer and they're waiting.
Speaker 2:Just like anybody that asks a rhetorical question, they already got the answer Because they want the lie.
Speaker 1:They want the lie, but that's my point Women are also great interrogators. Yeah, they are, Men not so much, but that's good.
Speaker 2:Well, interrogation is I'm building a case Facts.
Speaker 1:So that goes to the other part. They hoping you lie so they can catch you. That's why you tell the truth.
Speaker 2:Right, so your foundation's fucked up. It ain't about the lie, it's good, figure that out. What? Why are we off focused? And that's why I say if you know some information, why play that game?
Speaker 1:unless you're trying to blow up the spot, you trying to create a conversation then the other part is if you expect, like if you're in a relationship and you expect, uh, your significant other's answers to be straight line, have that conversation Tell them.
Speaker 3:You want that.
Speaker 1:That should be an expectation I want to know all five of your stops.
Speaker 2:And that's the layer of communication that majority of people aren't at. And then they want that in the middle.
Speaker 1:Well, you got to start at the beginning. Now you're upset because it's not happening.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it starts with you. So like how we ended last pod, emotional intelligence, how you communicate, if you are the better communicator, you can't go into it and say I'm the better communicator, so what I say goes how I say. It makes sense. It's being the better communicator means you're going to figure out how to get this message through your partner, as long as it takes.
Speaker 1:It might not be the same day, you might have to initiate the conversation repeatedly, or they might have to learn from you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you might have to go back to the drawing board.
Speaker 1:Maybe they never were taught, but then exactly, most of us weren't.
Speaker 2:How many people grew up where you knew how to problem solve? Never did it usually just ends somebody just stopped being mad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's over with it's okay to disagree.
Speaker 2:It's okay to we don't see it eye to eye, but I know I hurt you so I'm gonna do it a different way. I don't agree with your side of it, but I understand your feelings and how that happened and you don't always have to agree, no you can't.
Speaker 1:Conversation communication isn't about agreement.
Speaker 2:A hundred percent, and that's the biggest thing of working out in a relationship. You don't even have to be, even with your kids. Whoever you talk to a friend, your mom. Do I want to be right or do I want to resolve?
Speaker 1:That's the battle A lot of times. Everybody wants to be right. Everybody wants the last word. Everybody wants to be right.
Speaker 2:Being right. Don't resolve, because my right and your right could be different If we both put our feet in the sand and we standing here. What we fixing?
Speaker 1:I don't think a lot of people understand that. That's okay.
Speaker 2:It is perfectly okay. Walk away, not agreeing, agree to disagree, but walk into. I want you to feel better.
Speaker 1:But at least we understand we're each other.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I got you and accept that. I think that's the other side too. Sometimes we don't believe when somebody say you right, I understand Sometimes that person's bullshit and just saying it at the end of the conversation that's always what for me, that's what it is, I understand.
Speaker 1:Just to get the conversation going you gotta also be okay with saying okay, I don't agree, but I got you. I don't agree, but I care enough aboutael saying but I got you, I don't agree, but I care enough about you to do that for you.
Speaker 2:I will never say it that way again. I will never, you know, use the word choice, whatever it is. I agree with that part. I'm not excluding your feeling. That's the definition of compromise yeah, but I still think this is stupid. I still think you tripping over nothing, you still tripping over.
Speaker 1:So you still got the belief of you, just ain't say it like that.
Speaker 2:You feel it like that, or I said it. Y'all some slick-ass niggas, I like that.
Speaker 1:Y'all some slick-ass niggas, or I said it, or I said it, uh-huh. But you still feel the way about it, though, but I also said it For me.
Speaker 2:I'm verbal, oh no, yeah, certain shit you got to say.
Speaker 1:That's not nothing to trip about, but because you're tripping and I care about how you feel, it's cool. There it is, I got you. There it is, that's all. You fluffed it. No, I didn't, I was honest. But then you fluffed it and said hey, but because I care about you, that's compromise.
Speaker 2:It's grade A delivery. That's the part I'm missing.
Speaker 1:It's not even fluff, because I'm true with my compromise too. It's truth in both parts. It's truth in both parts. Fluff is when you say some shit just to get the conversation over.
Speaker 2:And you have no intention to actually follow through.
Speaker 2:Okay. When you get good at it, though, in your relationship, you know who to have the right conversation. So, with certain people in our lives, hey, you should go talk to them Both ways. Hey, this kid takes the message better from you, your mom. Sometimes my wife needs to talk to my mama. Sometimes I need to talk to her dad or her uncle. You know what I'm saying, like you, because you, you, you start to practice together and you realize, hey, you know how to, you know deliver that message a little better.
Speaker 1:You're better at this than me. Yeah, and that's okay and that's also goes back to what we was talking about earlier like there's no specific gender roles. Who's the best fit for this?
Speaker 2:For the job baby, to get the job done, to get the job done.
Speaker 1:Success is what's important, not who does it. Who is better suited for this in your household? Could be managing money, could be having the tough conversations, could be paying the bills, could be signing contracts Whatever that looks like for your household the best person should be fucking doing it.
Speaker 2:Ego kills a relationship Both ways.
Speaker 1:You ain't told no lie. You ain't told no lie, right, goddamn now. Shit. I think I learned something from both of y'all I think the approach and I think the delivery.
Speaker 2:My delivery is in the trash, bro.
Speaker 1:I think people my age we fail For sure. I think the delivery is something that I think people my age we fail For sure. I think that's where we fail. We tell you how we feel and I think it goes with both hot takes, with the conversation, in both ways. I think if you have clear delivery in both of those scenarios, you'll be fine.
Speaker 2:I think that's where we fail. You got to care, man. Yeah, you got to grow, but growth comes from caring yeah, if you don't care about somebody's feelings, you ain't gonna care about your delivery that's real.
Speaker 1:You should also care about the results, the outcome well, you can't.
Speaker 2:That's exactly. That's the next step. You ain't getting no results if you deliver who delivers terms trash? And you wondering why who's?
Speaker 1:listening to that bullshit everybody that you fuck with always quit fucking with you.
Speaker 2:That's why, man, I'm scared of people who say I don't fuck with nobody.
Speaker 1:Them niggas need help In both ways. Usually nobody fuck with you, Right?
Speaker 2:That's what it usually is you a fucked up person.
Speaker 1:You a fucked up individual with a fucked up delivery and a fucked up way of life. Typically, typically Speaking of. You've done so well. Do you have one for us before we go to the next segment? Okay, it kind of aligns with what we've already been talking about. Okay, let's talk about this. Do you feel like men don't marry looks, like we have sex with looks? Oh shit, men marry behavior. So you're asking do I believe that what's? Your thought process, my thought process is I feel like men marry behavior.
Speaker 2:Okay, so that's the hot take. Men, don't marry looks.
Speaker 1:We have sex with looks. Men marry behavior Boy you, finna, get me in some trouble, so you know you have to. So I'm going to say this Men in general, I can't. I'm going to speak out loud for men and the guys I talk to and the other guys I know. I got friends that are married. Of course I'm around. So for me, being married it's looks, it is looks, I think it's looks.
Speaker 1:Married for looks Married for looks Shadowy. Let's be real, talk about it. I'm supposed to marry you for your mind and I'm supposed to marry you for your morals and your beliefs, how you are going to be a mother or your nurture. What are your values of a woman? Somebody taught you that.
Speaker 2:I didn't get taught that.
Speaker 1:My father didn't teach me that. What it was for me was because after you get past sex, it's like okay, damn, let me figure out how your mom. Okay, the sex good. I feel like it's a checkpoint. Is the sex good? Pink, pink, okay good. Did you go against your own values? That's what I'm trying to get to.
Speaker 3:My own values as in.
Speaker 2:Because you just told me I did a mixture of both. You married for looks.
Speaker 1:I did a mixture of both, because I feel like if people married for looks, everybody can't have the baddest bitch in the world. It's gotta be what they feel is bad to them, or value of them, or what they like. So I feel like you're not gonna marry everybody different, but I feel like you made something or someone that you felt looked beautiful to you, that you could wake up to every day, right, so we just talk about looks. Yes, I think I did do that in an aspect, because there had to be a part of me to be like yes, this looks good to me, she's pretty, she wakes up beautiful. This has to be something for me. Um, now back to your question. Uh, you definitely got away from it behavior.
Speaker 1:I don't, I don't think so.
Speaker 2:I don't think so you don't think being married for behavior?
Speaker 1:I don't think we married for behavior. I think we're still in a space and me being 31, if it was behavior, if it was behavior based, and if that was the case, then a lot of us men would, would, wouldn't. We would disarrange a marriage of what we wanted prior. We wouldn't care. I think that's why you see a lot of divorce rates. We don't do that correct that's.
Speaker 3:I think that's why you see a lot of divorce rates.
Speaker 1:We don't do that. That's why we, that's why divorce people not happy people not separate, because we don't go off the behaviors, we don't go off the morals, we go off of the feeling in the moment, right then, and we don't think about the future, of how I'm going to feel, how you look 10 years from now. 10 years from now, I ain't look the same. She don't look. That changes.
Speaker 2:I think this. I love generational conversations.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Because I agree with both of y'all.
Speaker 1:It's going to change for me.
Speaker 2:Because it happens in both ways. I agree, rob's coming from a place of what we should do, uh-huh, and when you do it it's a beautiful thing. You're coming from a place of how young men think I'm still shallow. My wife's beautiful. I love that. She's beautiful. My wife is beautiful too, but she's more on the inside. The inside is what caught me. Yeah, I could find another outside attractive woman. I don't think I could find another woman who treats me and wanted me to be better, like my wife did, and so that was now.
Speaker 1:That's for me we all made for beauty?
Speaker 2:yeah, for sure, I mean I, I want to. I that's why I said I agree with you too. I want to wake up and want to look at you I did, I did both.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's what I'm saying too.
Speaker 2:I did both Luck, whatever, that's how it happened. But I knew also too, for me I couldn't be married to someone I'm not attracted to and be a good guy.
Speaker 1:That's perfectly fine. I feel like that's perfectly fine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I wouldn't.
Speaker 1:Here's the problem where a lot of people they only marry for looks. Right, that's right they forget about the rest of the person.
Speaker 2:That's not going to last 50 years. Not just her looks are going to fall off. Of course, but you're not going to be happy with somebody just because they wake up looking good.
Speaker 1:That's not sustainable. I mean, there's behavior, attitude.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's some bad attitude. It's some fucked up beautiful people. It is.
Speaker 1:It's attitude. Some beautiful people it is so that I can't get the money. I mean the concept of how they want to live financially. I mean I'm not knocking that, but I feel like and this is where I could be the generous, where it's different but if I look at you, if I look at you and I can't get past the meter of saying, damn, it's shallow. You're a gorgeous person, but that's yes, that's lust, you're married.
Speaker 2:I'm just about saying you're a gorgeous person, but that's, that's lust, you're married. I'm just about to say it. You're married for lust.
Speaker 1:If that's where you started, there's nothing wrong with lust, because we all have it. Women have it, men have it. There's nothing wrong with lust.
Speaker 2:And you translate lust to marriage keep it a buck bucko, hold on the problem for all generations. Uh huh, especially in our community, we marry because of circumstance. I've been with this chick so long, I need to go ahead and marry her. I had kids with her. I need to go ahead and marry her. She about to leave me. I'm going to go ahead and marry her.
Speaker 1:The pressure, the pressure my parents her parents, grandparents.
Speaker 2:It's pressure, it's pressure.
Speaker 1:When's it going to happen?
Speaker 2:We all thought's like when's it gonna happen? Hey, what's gonna happen? But but that goes. That's why I say I agree with rob, we knew early on these behaviors, these actions we, we do to each other ain't gonna work, but we gonna do it anyway.
Speaker 2:Don't do it regardless, but if you stood on that, you would take that first few, two, max three red flags. This ain't my person, because of who they are. What we do, we keep it through. Once you take them clothes off, I'll fall in love with you the way that back shot went.
Speaker 1:Oh God, I could stick around for this, maybe.
Speaker 2:Men and women both do it.
Speaker 1:Men and women both do it. Men and women both do it.
Speaker 2:And then you wonder why two, three, ten years of relationship fail is because goes back to what Rob said the behavior. You don't like this person. You don't you like looking at her, you like how she make you feel in the moment, yeah, in the moment. He or she. Yeah, I don't like this motherfucker.
Speaker 1:This motherfucker piss me off.
Speaker 2:That's like which one you take though you gonna take.
Speaker 1:You gonna take the best Back shots in the world, or she can't cook you breakfast. Which one we going? Remember when I said it goes back to what your intentions are.
Speaker 2:That's true. That's it. That's true. You gotta be selfish In the moment the rest of your life. So we get taught that wrong too selfish is wrong. No, you gotta take care of you first. If you're not healthy, you can't be unhealthy taking care of somebody trying to make them healthy if you're really not trying to be married.
Speaker 1:If you're not, that's not your end goal and that's not where you are in life, then fucking say that that's it and enjoy the moment.
Speaker 2:Be honest with you first, and then you could deliver that message people.
Speaker 1:People fall for the pressure. That's it. We've been messing with each other for a year, two years why y'all not? Married. That's even. I think that's even farther than that. I think it's deeper. I think we are too. Hey shit, I'll tell somebody shut the hell up that's what you should do shut the hell up.
Speaker 2:A year, two years, three years might have been.
Speaker 1:Let me tell you, but when you've been with somebody for damn near I think we was since 2013, so so and and I married her in 2018, so for me it's like them years you're together. You hear that one word Commitment. You know what I mean, commitment. I think women hear that. Who'd you hear that from? Well, you hear, I heard it from her, but at the same time, I also but where'd she hear it from? It's a real question. I'm glad you said that she didn't hear from you.
Speaker 2:Where's she here, if you?
Speaker 1:didn't tell her I don't want to marry you five years ago, yeah, which you should have. You should have said that's not in the cards, but it was. It was all seven, but it was more, but I feel it was more of people. We were ready and people be ready. But women hear the word commitment from her friends, your grandma, their grandparents, their grandmothers. They hear the word commitment from her friends, their grandparents, their grandmothers. They hear that word commitment. They're like, hey, is he committed to you? Everybody grows up hearing that word. Is he really committed to you? That's what they want to ask. I don't think everybody understands what the word means.
Speaker 2:They don't. They don't Also, bro, there ain't no commitment to shit fucked up. That's when you figure the fuck out for real, it's so easy to be committed to the happy times and the honeymoon phase, when some shit get ugly. You don't love a motherfucker until you mad as fuck at them and still want to fuck with them and still want to be with you and talk to you.
Speaker 1:And that's the part of what Michael was saying earlier. That's the part of what I'm saying. I feel like a lot of times people are not understanding the definition of the words they're saying and what that actually means in real life. What does commitment mean? What does marriage mean? What does I love you mean and what does I like you?
Speaker 2:mean it's to you. It's not what your mama said. Your grandma said the world is different. What do you need from this person to commit to him for the rest of your life?
Speaker 1:and can you truly see yourself with this person for the next 50, 60 years?
Speaker 2:and it also goes to like leaving the motherfucker. Am I gonna regret leaving them? Is this really something better or I'm just upset in the moment? Do I really believe that this relationship failed because of this person? No, it failed because of both of y'all.
Speaker 1:And somebody wasn't willing to fix it.
Speaker 2:And somebody like to fix. It is both of us to make it work is both of us to end. It is both of us how much work you put in if you really want it. We accept bullshit a lot of times because it's the norm now, because there's so much grass that you can see now you think is you think it's greener over there? I mean everybody come with problems and think about.
Speaker 1:Think about like this you'll you'll accept some from somebody who isn't yours, who doesn't belong to you, but as soon as the person who you're committed to makes a mistake, you expect this person to be perfect oh, that man you don't expect no, this conversation, oh oh, that person you're with is supposed to be perfect.
Speaker 2:Hey, punishing somebody because of your past demons is wrong.
Speaker 1:That happens all the time.
Speaker 2:But that's because we're not taught that shit, we're not taught to. It ain't on the new person to fix you. You got to fix you. You got to do your work. You got to face your trauma. You got to face your upbringing. You got to face your trauma. You got to face your upbringing. You got to face your failed past relationships. Ask a motherfucker from your past why they didn't want to be with you.
Speaker 2:They don't want to do that? No, but that's how you fix yourself. They don't block. You got to face it. If you don't get real answers, your life will never be real I feel like they know the answers.
Speaker 1:It goes back to your, your first take. People know the truth and they don't want to be the hand of the truth. Nah, but about?
Speaker 2:yourself, though a lot of people ain't never been told about them real self, or they never wanted to face it. They never looked in the mirror. I fucked up. What'd I do wrong? It's always easier to point the finger at somebody else.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when I told you a couple weeks ago, at the end we was talking when. Jock was here, shout out to. Jock, shout out to Jock. I was the problem.
Speaker 2:What is your problem? I didn't want to be in a committed relationship. Everybody's a problem at some point.
Speaker 1:I didn't want to do what was necessary to settle down. I didn't want to be the man that I am now to my wife, to the other people I was dating. I didn't want to. So I was the problem because they wanted something that I am now to my wife, to the other people I was dating. I didn't want to. So I was the problem because they wanted something that I didn't want, and so my actions showed that I wasn't bought into what they were bought into. Now the problem for me was I also was able to verbalize that, and people don't listen Because they like.
Speaker 1:Mike said they don't want the truth. You can tell somebody I don't want to marry you, I don't want the same things you want, and they will still try to change you. They will still think that time would change. They will still think that having a baby by you would change Like. They will still think I just got to wait out. He'll change his mind. He or she changes mind or we just need to do this and mind to change. We need to live together and they'll change their mind.
Speaker 1:Don't ignore the red flags. Don't ignore the conversations. Ask questions. Ignore the conversations, ask questions, trust the action. A lot of people don't. A lot of people get into relationships, don't even have talks, don't even communicate. What do they say? Do background checks? Do your homework? Do your goddamn homework, because the homework can be a real deal thing.
Speaker 1:I like the takes and I think they all went together with each other and I feel like, realistically, to summarize the takes y'all, listen, be honest is what I'm hearing. Be able to take the feedback, be able to be able to be able to explain yourself properly and communicate properly. I think that all goes. I love, I loved all the takes. I'm telling y'all I learned something today Good conversation. I think. I think, um, as black men, we have to start doing this more. I think there should be more people having these conversations, really talking, because we're not doing it enough.
Speaker 1:Um, I'd like to go ahead then, now, before we have a special guest coming in, and we're going to segue into our sports. We do have a, a young lady coming on with us today, my girl ollie. She's going to be, uh, our special guest today. Before she pops in, we're definitely want to go into our, our sports. You know, I'm saying, um, I've got a couple things. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna go too deep, but I do want to touch two topics. Um, the first topic my boy, my boy should do it. Man. We, about a week and a half away after the draft, almost two weeks, and I want to go into the NFL. They showed their hand. They showed their hand, they showed their ass. I'll tell you what the NFL did. The NFL we always knew. I just want to start with going back to the Mannings. You know, from the Mannings to the quarterback, all the quarterback playing quarterback in the NFL is so prestige, it's like an honor. Did they ever hide their hand? Who? The NFL? Because, to show your hand. You have to hide it.
Speaker 3:They never hid it, they hid it.
Speaker 1:I think it's been on the low. I think motherfuckers weren't paying attention. That might Okay, I think maybe they didn't hide it. I think it's been on the low. I think motherfuckers weren't paying attention. That might okay, I think maybe they didn't hide it. Maybe they put a blanket over it and said, ah niggas, we still here holding this shit down. Because if y'all telling me that with the order, jackson Dart went, of course, ken Ward number one, but Jackson Dart went 25. You're going to tell me the boy from what is that?
Speaker 1:Louisville. The quarterback from Louisville was better than Shadur Sanders.
Speaker 2:Tyler or whatever.
Speaker 1:Tyler, I can't say his last name. Did y'all see that pass?
Speaker 2:that boy threw at the combine.
Speaker 1:Sidearm. All of the talk since the draft, they have told you that it was about the behind-the-scenes things. It wasn't about his ability, it wasscenes things. It wasn't about his ability. It was the interview, it wasn't about it. They trying to say oh, this or that. No, they are telling you they did not like his arrogance, his cockiness, his confidence.
Speaker 2:Two things can be true at the same time.
Speaker 1:Now he has some things to work on, as in a player, as a player, as in his or as in as a player, because it should only be about playing the game of football. But if that's the case, I think he should have got drafted second. That's my problem. He should have been the second quarterback off the board Because at the end of the day, he was his numbers, his numerical stats, his ability to do what he did and have a trash ass offensive line Facts. He definitely should have went in the first round. I don't care which pick, but he should have went in the first round.
Speaker 2:I think it's a lot of lot to it on just the foundation of football. Shador Ball Shador was not the sixth ranked quarterback on anybody's board and I don't think NFL GMs felt that way. Definitely a message being sent. We scared of Deion. Deion got a microphone in front of him. He got a lot of friends he said it.
Speaker 2:He said a lot of things and I don't want you coming here and messing with my program. And once we decided Shador is not a starter, then it started the Tim Tebow, the pressure of having a superstar personality as a public figure, as a backup.
Speaker 1:Because he's not a starter. Yet he's not not an nfl starter. He hasn't shown it because he hasn't had the fbs time. He's only been at colorado for two years. Two years, jack and jack you know hbcu two years. In the second season they did a whole lot better yeah, talent evaluation.
Speaker 2:Whether you think he'll start it today or not, I don't think. Like I said, he's not the sixth best quarterback in this draft, absolutely not. That's all I'm saying. Where you have him slotted.
Speaker 1:Not even just quarterbacks Athletes. Yeah, there's worse athletes.
Speaker 2:Now that was drafted before him. What was more crazy to me was he got punished for not being a super athletic black kid, Like I heard that a lot. Oh, he's 40. He's this. Patrick Mahomes didn't run a fast 40. Facts and he balling. We know Tom Brady.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of them that can't run.
Speaker 2:Yeah, tom Brady couldn't run at all. James Wisnan in the league right now. He not a super athlete.
Speaker 1:Like the excuses that they give make no sense.
Speaker 2:That's what I don't like.
Speaker 1:Paying attention to football and you know football. If you were just paying attention to this draft to see if he got drafted, then you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, because you're not paying attention to football year over year.
Speaker 2:And, being in Nashville, I can't have this conversation and not say the other side I hate it. Can't have this conversation and not say the other side I hate it. Cam didn't get his shine. Tomorrow boy can't war. Yeah, I hate it. I hate it became. Shador's slide was a bigger story than Cam being a kid a zero star being number one.
Speaker 1:I feel like Cam handled it right?
Speaker 2:No, 100%. I think they both handled it. You know 100%. I think they both handled it pretty good. Shador gonna be Shador. That's the Sanders way, the legendary shit man. Whether you like it or not, it's a foundation he set, and who he's gonna be Now live up to it.
Speaker 1:First and foremost, we have to remember when NFL leadership didn't think a black person could be an NFL quarterback that wasn't that long ago. Shots by Boyd Warren man.
Speaker 3:That wasn't that long ago.
Speaker 2:That's why I want to celebrate a black one going one.
Speaker 1:I hate that. We, you know, we changed the dynamics of the position. However, they still are about power and manipulation.
Speaker 2:What's the program, bro? You're not bigger than the program.
Speaker 1:He's already rich. That's number one. I think that's part. That's like 33%. He got the money on it, so he didn't have to have a conversation about being compensated. Not only is he already rich, they're already influential in the world of the nfl politics.
Speaker 2:Facts yeah, been like that for years, but I think that's why he went to the fifth that's why? Because they knew deon had the knowledge. I knew he knew it, he knew the game, yeah, contracts yeah. So now I can't punish you, just not picking you. You know where you wanted to go. Now I gotta show you that we control we control this shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a message, because Deion a part of it too. He go to the Giants at 25. Yep, they play Russell Wilson. They don't look good. Shador played the last few games. Everybody wants Shador to start. They fired Dable, which is going to happen anyway. Right, but hold on. But they do that. What you do with there Now the whole Off season is, are we?
Speaker 1:bringing Deion, we bringing Deion. I got you. It's a bigger. It's bigger than that. I get it.
Speaker 2:It's a bigger play Than just. It's a lot to your franchise. I get I'm not saying I get him sliding, but I get An owner saying I don't want to deal with this shit.
Speaker 1:I don't want to deal with this shit, but and I understand why the Giants Right or wrong Cause the Giants finna be gone For the record. What's their date? Single to Mayo this time next year. I promise y'all Dalibow and that GM Will not be there. They finna lose their job, don't you worry. But that's a good point though. But I also think as well, besides the money, I feel like it's going to come back to where they were black I think it was blackball a little bit. Of course, everybody knows that, bro?
Speaker 2:the fifth part was letting you know what it is, bill Rowe. Slide to the fifth.
Speaker 1:They did it intentionally so there couldn't be a collusion, because the NFL has rules where you can't collude.
Speaker 2:You're not bigger than the shield.
Speaker 1:You're not bigger than the shield, but they did it in a way where it can't be a collusion conversation. They could have Kaepernick them. You know what I'm saying? That's what they could have done. And if they're saying that, oh well, he didn't go to the combine, or he didn't do this, or we didn't see, enough tape.
Speaker 2:He had a pro day, or just Colorado pro day but he didn't do the combine.
Speaker 1:Why didn't you make him go undrafted? That couldn't have happened. I'll tell you, if he went undrafted it would have been a fucking problem and that's where the collusion comes in and then it would have been a lawsuit. He go undrafted. We're talking about who shit?
Speaker 2:I think hindsight, of course, we know it's 2020. Later on, when Dion or Shadur talk about it, they'll say they'll probably do some things different when you think they clearly thought he was blue chip.
Speaker 1:I did too, just being real. Yeah, look at the numbers.
Speaker 2:But you stand on that. You still got to work Because it's still about the future. It ain't about what you did up to this point. You bought out of college. We still betting on you. It's like about the future. It ain't about what you did up to this point you bought out of college. We still betting on you. It's like a job interview Facts. So if I know it's only 30 places I can work, if I shit on 10 of them, you don't think them 10? Talk to the 20?
Speaker 2:They don't talk to the 20, and they're going to be like nah, you don't want to work with this nigga this, and I think that's the part that they would do over, whether he did the combine or not workouts, interviews Go talk to a team, though, respectfully, and have a good interview, and that's where I feel like they went overboard. They dropped the ball.
Speaker 1:I don't mind him being confident, I don't mind him Not at all.
Speaker 2:I don't mind him being confident Cam Ward is that man is. I don't want my leader not to be comfortable here's the difference.
Speaker 1:Shadur wasn't ever taught to be humble there's been no reason to well. I mean, you got your dad his prime time facts. You see how he was he was talking shit in Atlanta and I think they overplayed that part like he didn't teach him. The journey was different he didn't teach him how to have a job interview.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because Deion like Deion, walked in there, motherfucker. The best player in the draft.
Speaker 1:Jerry Caryl Faria.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so.
Speaker 1:But that's a different time too. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's a different time, bro, like you should have taught him how to approach it in 2025.
Speaker 2:He in 2025. He just needed to be humble for four more months.
Speaker 1:That's it.
Speaker 2:Show some humility.
Speaker 1:That's it.
Speaker 2:Get through the process when you get to that team. Legendary, here we go, legendary.
Speaker 1:Not only was Deion, because I love that shit.
Speaker 3:I do too. Not only Deion was the top prospect in the draft.
Speaker 1:When he got drafted, he also could have went to the MLB. Which MLB?
Speaker 2:which he did. He had leverage, but he had leverage because he didn't have to play football.
Speaker 1:He could not sign any team and go somewhere else and do something else Like he was. That talented of an athlete. Shadur isn't his dad. That leaves me with my last question for this topic. When Arch comes out of the next year to the year before and I'm going to make sure I look at the numbers, arch Manning, I think he's going to stay. Let's say he's the old junior year, he's right here, he stays, they saying he's playing too. If he do, he won't do like his uncle now. He won't do all four. Let's say he do all four Come out in 2028. And he has numbers. It wouldn't be 28.
Speaker 1:It would 27 27, well, 26 this year, you're right, but it'll be for draft of 28, would it not?
Speaker 2:nah, it'll be, 27 27 25.
Speaker 1:Okay, so if he comes out and the numbers 3,500 yards if he don't have the numbers that Shadur had. I don't care what nobody say. The motherfucker threw for 4,000 Shadur ball and ball if he don't got them numbers.
Speaker 2:It's the conversation, though Uh-huh, because I know where you're going Know what's going to? Happen the other side of those numbers and I'm not saying I'm agreeing, I'm just saying what's out there. Uh-huh, shador had four receivers get drafted. Yeah, so you throw into a goddamn Heisman Trophy winner. Yeah, you throw into a you know three of the top 30 receivers in the country. Uh-huh, it's going to help your numbers. Now again, I'm not saying I agree with it.
Speaker 1:You stay in Texas, in Arch, uh-huh.
Speaker 2:Arch's name is just as big.
Speaker 1:There it is, uh-huh.
Speaker 2:He walking there, a white man. There we go. There's going to have them in review.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 2:Football royalty. That's going to be the difference.
Speaker 1:Football royalty and I thought Deion had that.
Speaker 2:That's a little different, a little different.
Speaker 1:It's a lot. Marvin Harrison with his son. I just thought the black man knew better.
Speaker 2:We talking manning royalty, we talking daddy, I got you Two sons.
Speaker 1:Grandfather, I get it, I'm talking about Super Bowl winners. Architect the premier position.
Speaker 2:The only thing that I think Deion may have done wrong is he didn't have the guarantee. If he had a guarantee or maybe we don't know Maybe he did and that's why they felt the way they did. But if he knew for sure Shadua was going in the top 10, then you talk your shit. If you don't, then let the game play for what it was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I think they thought they did.
Speaker 2:There's no way. That's the only thing I can assume. Is they really?
Speaker 1:I think the Giants sold them a drink. He had the shoes on. In goddamn October, november. The color of the shoes?
Speaker 2:But think of it the other way, though. If I'm the Giants and I don't, and I didn't give you that guarantee, and you pulled them shoes out, how'd that look? It looks crazy. It looks crazy.
Speaker 1:It's the same thing, though. So just because somebody shows interest to you or with you doesn't mean that you don't still have to go and do the damn interview Right. So just because the Giants said that they wanted you on the team the day that you went and had the interview conversation, they still had to ask you the same?
Speaker 1:questions they had to ask everybody else you can't get mad because now you felt like you had the golden glove or the golden shoe and that you don't have to answer their questions. That's what the insider was like he didn't feel like he had to answer their questions.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, I mean they said he's saying bad interviews. My thing is it wouldn't make what doesn't align. You pull those shoes out. You throwing them to league neighbors. Throwing them to league neighbors. You saying you want to be the Giants pick three Good yeah. Or even if you got an idea, the Giants take Carter and come back and get you, which is what I thought. If you felt that way, how do you not prepare for the Giant interview?
Speaker 1:He didn't prepare at all.
Speaker 2:Right For any interview, but that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1:It doesn't make sense, and that's what I'm saying. That's the part that I don't agree with.
Speaker 2:I can't agree with that.
Speaker 1:You can't go into any job. I don't give a fuck what the job is, it's unprepared. You just can't do it. You can't. But if God damn, let me tell you what We've all had, and this is just how I'm going to end up. We you saw, listen, you saw what I was able to do. I came and took the test, I took the application, I took the assessment and I lied on the resume. But guess what? That man didn't lie on his resume. That man told y'all he was about that action.
Speaker 1:He could have lied on the resume though he could have lied on the resume, though, I said yeah, you know, I feel this way about how my lifestyle was growing up. I'm a team first guy. Man put that motherfucking wrist up. That man was in there talking that shit and I get it. And they didn't know like, oh, this nigga here gonna turn the table on us, hold the fuck up, put your wrist down. He was also had his hat on backwards, I get it, but I'm gonna. I hope and pray. My last take on this is I hope and pray that when he gets that opportunity in Cleveland, that he's the savior in Cleveland and he really makes it shake for real.
Speaker 2:I hope Shadurah go crazy.
Speaker 1:I do, I hope he does, and he should have came in with the I'm going to be somebody's backup attitude. He came in like he thought he was going to be a star.
Speaker 2:I'm shake shifting.
Speaker 1:And I'm not mad about that because I love the confidence. So I promise I'm not Not to your interview.
Speaker 2:To the world. Yes, that's what I'm saying To your job interview. No, he just needed to be humble from January to April.
Speaker 1:That was it, and then, once we got, once they called that name with the third pick the 25th pick let's go yeah that's all. And get on the field and earn that number one spot, which I think he will.
Speaker 2:The only problem is it's still Cleveland.
Speaker 1:Hey, I hope he's the savior. I might be the one. I don't think they're done showing him that you are not that guy. I don't think they're done. Let me tell you one thing or another. Once you go on that field, play is play. We know that man. I've seen them start somebody over somebody. That should have started. It's a fifth year and he's a fifth year pick.
Speaker 2:So if it comes out, they already said he's fifth round.
Speaker 1:Yeah, fifth round pick. So regardless of the fact, once he come out there, they'll trade him out. Now you on the team, now I don't got to make the team.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I got money. Now I will use my leverage, unless somebody else pick me up. He's good enough. I don't see him getting the black ball treatment like Kaepernick. He's too. It don't make no sense.
Speaker 2:No, he'll be all right. They starting Flacco.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he'll be all right, that's the only thing, but he's not going to start.
Speaker 2:He won't, yeah. No, it's actually a little pressure off of him. I think it's good for him, yeah.
Speaker 1:Which is why should want to learn the NFL process, because he didn't really get. He didn't really get NFL experience playing where he played it. I think we got a call in for the calling guys. I think our special guest is ready. Let's do it and we're going to go ahead and get into our next segment.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Molly Perkins said here we go. Yes, sir, hello, hello Ali.
Speaker 3:Hey.
Speaker 1:What up, man? Welcome to no Cat, no Rap. We're glad to have Our special guest y'all. If y'all didn't know, this is my girl, ali Ali. How we doing baby.
Speaker 3:I'm doing pretty good today. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1:You are on here With my other two guests, of course my boy Ravski and my OG Mike. What's up, miss Ali? Welcome, welcome. Hi how you doing Are we saying your name right, ali?
Speaker 3:You are? Yeah, it says Ali. My full name is Aliana, but I just go by Ali.
Speaker 1:Gotcha, gotcha. Okay, cool, I almost fucked up. I told her I call her Ali Ali, I call it Allie, Allie, Allie. You know I try to do right, try to do better. You know what I'm saying. We're glad to have you and you know we're actually going to start the next segment and I think you'll be very interested in the segment right here.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:So you know we want to go into, you know, date trauma. So, and what I mean by that is, I always want to ask where can a nigga take you out to eat at, and how much is that bill going to be?
Speaker 2:Out the gate.
Speaker 1:If we coming outside and we finna go on a date where we going, this first date right, first date and I'm picking a place, people are like, well, first date, you never want to take him out to eat, you want to go somewhere that's quiet and talk. Nah, listen, I'm a nigga. I like to eat. Women like to eat too. Allie, where you want a man to take you, where we going, what's the price?
Speaker 3:What we doing, oh gosh, I mean, I would have to say, for a first date especially, it really would probably depend on how I'm feeling about that man, because, if I'm being honest, like different men can get different things. If that makes sense, so I would, I would definitely say, if I'm really really feeling him, we could honestly just go to the park and go walk together. You know, go get some ice cream or something like that. If I'm not sure about how I feel about somebody, then we might have to actually go out and, you know, go get an actual dinner. And I'm not saying anything like Ruth, chris or something like that for a first date, that's ridiculous. But we could go to like the Rutledge or something that could be nice.
Speaker 1:So, on the first date, if you really like fucking with him, like you know, like, oh yeah, this is going to be one of them. Guys right here, you willing to not have no money spent, go get ice cream, walk around the park. Throw some bread at the geese's and goose's before we move forward. I want to. I want to know how do you, how do you discern that? How do you decide?
Speaker 2:all right, we, we was on the same way. What is it that gives you? That was crazy. What is it? What is it?
Speaker 1:that tells you the difference between park and geese, or the red.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like how do we get that, how we separate that?
Speaker 3:I mean honestly, like I really think it's just kind of a vibe, like a feeling that you get between the two of you, because, like I feel like most people could say the same thing, like you can just be with somebody you know for an instant and then you automatically know like, okay, yeah, we kind of click together like this could be something really nice, or like, if you hesitate at all, you know, that kind of leads you the other direction.
Speaker 1:You get what I'm saying, yeah, yeah, I got you yeah, I understood, I just wanted to hear your version hold on.
Speaker 2:So before we move a little further, I need to know be real with us. Are you okay? Are you having dates as a single woman just to eat?
Speaker 3:I mean, I'm not going to lie, it's not just to eat.
Speaker 2:That sounds like a lie, okay, so yeah, I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 3:It's not just to eat. No, I'm not going to cap. I promise I'm not going to cap. It's not just to eat, but, like, I definitely will go out on a date with someone to feel them out more. If, especially if I'm not sure about how I feel, but if it's, you know, something that I don't see moving anywhere, then I won't go past the first date. And I know some dudes they'll probably see that and you know they'll take that as like, oh well, you never really fucked with me to say it's like an interview period. But you know, you're kind of putting your best self out there and if I don't think it's going to be a match, then I don't want to waste either of our time.
Speaker 2:I respect that and I think it is an interview period. I don't think we should run from that. But I also think women should be honest. Hey, I'm cool, just going to eat with you. I don't see a future. Majority of them, men will still take you to eat.
Speaker 1:Shit. Hold the fuck up. I mean I'll let you take something.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you something. We had a 44-year-old munch last week.
Speaker 1:You think I'm out here just buying lunch Come on man. He knew what he was.
Speaker 2:You're right, we didn't have him on here last week, you're right.
Speaker 1:That's how you have sugar. But if I want to go and she tells me up front, hey, I really don't think this is going to be something we're going to go ahead and do, but I'd still love to go get something to eat. Yeah, okay, so we done. Went from Jay Alexander.
Speaker 2:To Applebee's. Two for twenty. She's still getting lunch, yeah that's cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah she didn't ask. She didn't ask where she was going. We going to McDonald's, wendy's, get the 4-4, if we, because I feel like I feel like I don't know about McDonald's or Wendy's. I don't even eat McDonald's. You ain't trying to go on a second date, so to me it's like we couldn't, we couldn't, we couldn't attire my take on what she said.
Speaker 3:I mean, if you just don't take me to McDonald's and Wendy's?
Speaker 2:you might as well just send me a little $10.
Speaker 1:Like, don't even take me, I'd rather. But I'd rather do that you might as I feel like in the day.
Speaker 2:I would rather that goes back to the question.
Speaker 1:I can't let you go past the part that you said You're cool with tricking. I mean, if we go do the $10, $20, $10, $20 at this point, you don't want to go out to eat. You're cool with tricking. Though, that's the way I'm at it. Okay, I'm not cool with tricking. No, I'm not cool. But there's no like if I want to go get my feet done, come get your feet done. We all go trick and get our feet done. Is that tricking? That's spending time together.
Speaker 2:Damn. I just needed you to clarify. All I'm saying is be honest, Whatever direction you're going in, I'm not saying majority. I ain't putting a number on it. I just know that there's an attractive woman in the dating world can say hey, I'm not looking for nothing serious, but I will go to dinner with you. A dude will still take her to dinner. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So we're friends. Most men believe in their mackerel.
Speaker 2:Right, they still think they can fling you and get in and get going.
Speaker 1:I just need my foot in the door. So, all right, cool, I hear you, but I don't hear you, but I don't hear you. I'm going to still get my chance.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying it out loud for women to just say it yeah, you can avoid the awkward ending. You can avoid where it is going. Say it up front.
Speaker 1:And you'll still get the dinner. And I got to say to you in this next 30 minutes to an hour over a meal doesn't generate that second date. I fucked up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let him own it.
Speaker 3:See, I feel like as a woman, though sometimes men can get a little delusional if you're too nice.
Speaker 2:And so like, if you do.
Speaker 3:Yeah, even if you do agree and go out and say like, hey, I don't want anything, they'll still think that you know there's potential for it to go further. Or they'll be like, oh, I can make it go further.
Speaker 2:Just like, or you know, just something like that, to try to push it, push their narrative 100, which is why mike said be honest, yeah, no, I'm not saying it's going to change the outcome. What I'm saying is it changes the ending yeah, so you can speak from a better place, like you're leading me on. No, I never let you.
Speaker 1:I already told you, I told you what it was.
Speaker 2:You know I'm saying like it, just it makes makes the separation of communicating with this person a lot easier, because men absolutely think, just like you just said, nah facts. We talk to them all the time. We talk to them all the time, we talk to them every day.
Speaker 1:But I think the issue is that's where a nigga can be a simp, because he want to spend more and do more. The whole time he's not going to get what he wants or what he think he wants.
Speaker 2:He's a simp. A lot of men just really don't understand women. Yeah, men just gotta stop being upset about their feelings. If the woman gave you the play, if she told you what, it is how you can't be mad, then now that's cool. I don't think a lot of women do that, though, yeah, so I would be up for ollie, do you have friends that say, hey, I'm just about to go out with this dude, so I get this little meal off?
Speaker 3:I definitely do. I won't say that I approve of every single one that does it, but I definitely do have friends that do that okay, I just want people to hear it.
Speaker 2:Man, let's, let's just be real. We out here just getting no, I'm definitely real.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what he said. That's why he said that's why you are.
Speaker 1:That's why you were here. But I also have to ask as well, then it's what's too much then for a meal? If I'm gonna just be your friend, so I'm gonna take you out. I ain't getting no cooch now. I ain't getting no cooch. I ain't getting no nothing. We just going out to have some meat. I ain't getting nothing. Is it wrong? Now, this is where I live. It should be real. Now we here, it's our first date. I took you somewhere nice. You got an appetizer.
Speaker 2:Wine, main course, you didn't spend a couple hundred Bread Dessert.
Speaker 1:You got to go take a picture in front of the little thing they got. You had a good time. That check come out that motherfucker saved 450, gratitude 500. Oh yeah, I'm looking at it, I'm looking at you. It's adding up mighty well, am I wrong as a man? Are we wrong for thinking we want some coochie now?
Speaker 3:So I'm not going to say that you're wrong for feeling the way that you feel, but I do feel like a lot of men consider sex to be transactional and I don't think I'm not gonna say that it's not for because there are a lot of women that it is transactional for them.
Speaker 3:But I know for me in particular, like I do have a tendency to get my feelings involved in things and I don't want to get physical with somebody until, you know, we kind of have that deeper understanding and we understand. You know, we we really want to take it to a different level if that makes sense. Like I don't want it to be something that's just surface level with people that I'm going out to eat with.
Speaker 1:If that makes sense, does that is that kind of no, I mean yeah, but if I, I heard you say we're out to eat, we go out to eat and the price was $500. We didn't go out to eat, we went out to eat and split a bill on half the rent and I think a lot of times men get tricked.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So what was your intentions on choosing the place that you knew was going to be $500? For me? So I asked her what she wanted. I'm just saying in the scenario I'm like, hey, what you want to go get, what do you want to eat? Because most times, as a man, I'm going to take the initiative to let you know where we're going. Hey, we're going X, Y and Z. I don't want you to pick.
Speaker 1:I think a lot of men do things above their weight class and expect things in return yeah, so if you, couldn't really afford the five hundred dollars without getting anything back. You shouldn't have done it, that's real, but we could or if you could afford it, we could afford it.
Speaker 2:You still shouldn't assume that I was gonna get some coochie.
Speaker 3:You shouldn't assume I would say just pick a place you know you can spend without having to worry about getting the money back or getting something back Eat on your butt.
Speaker 2:I mean your ego. Will my ego be hurt if I spend this $500? If I spend this $500, don't spend the $500.
Speaker 1:So then okay. So then okay, ali watch this, then Ali, ali watch this. Then how come a lot of times women, we take y'all somewhere, for example? Now I'll just speak just for you hold on before you go.
Speaker 2:Ali, are you in the 20s bracket, 30s? Oh, I'm 28 okay, okay, all right. Are you the way you're? You're speaking to us what you, how you feel in your circle of women, you know, are you a majority thinker, a minority?
Speaker 3:can you elaborate a little bit?
Speaker 2:so like do the people you with? Do you think they would agree with what you're saying, or is this a fight you would have with your girlfriends too?
Speaker 3:oh yeah, no, it would probably be a fight. Um, I tend to think, differently I think than a lot of my friend group um, I want to set the tone of the conversation, that's all okay so, with knowing that information, I think that's very important.
Speaker 1:I was going to ask if you were to go out and we go somewhere. It could be somewhere simple. Are you going to get something on the menu that you normally wouldn't get? So let's say we could go somewhere simple, Simple. It could be something as simple as Cheesecake Factory. You know damn well, you don't get that creme brulee. You know you typically get the Oreo cheesecake, but you want to be like shit girl.
Speaker 2:I'm getting this right here, hey girl.
Speaker 1:You in the group chat. I want the whole cheesecake. I want the whole cheesecake. I want extra drizzle on that mug. Is that wrong? Wrong, do you feel like? Are you going out of your scope of what you would normally do? Are you gonna play it safe?
Speaker 3:I'm not gonna say that it's wrong, but I will say it's greedy. So that's because personally me personally like one I don't really order past what I think that I can actually eat, uh. And then also, like I am kind of conscientious not just about me and my pockets but also the person that I'm with, like I I honestly don't want you spending over what you might have. Like I don't want to put you in a bind. I don't know what the situation is. You might have it like that. You know, I don't know, but I'm not going to go out of my way to make you spend more just because I've got a grown woman on the pod I like you do how are you growing?
Speaker 1:let me, let me find you a grown woman. Let me tell you something. God damn it. A lot of times you know women do that, though I think because they can't Afford it. Or a lot of times they don't never think about Another man's pocket, at least in women. I know they be like man. I wouldn't Like y'all be talking To group chats like that. That's nothing else I want to know In them. Group chats Y Men be acting like they got cash, money but then they be broke.
Speaker 1:I'm not talking about the cookout. I'm talking about you with your homegirls, like some close girls or friends you have Y'all. Don't be in your group chat talking like, yeah, I went out here with this man. He bought me X, y and Z. I know you got a friend that's in the group but who let them order the whole cheesecake? Who?
Speaker 2:the fuck the nigga did.
Speaker 1:Did he go?
Speaker 2:to the bathroom. That nigga thought he was taking her home.
Speaker 1:He thought he was finna go do something? Was he afraid to tell the waitress? Hell, no, who let that happen? Because it's not happening.
Speaker 2:We still talking about date one right yeah, you got three friends. We're still on date one. Oh yeah, I got three friends.
Speaker 3:We're still on date one, oh yeah yeah, I got three friends in particular that do that kind of stuff and, like I've gotten into a few times because they honestly that's all they talk about is wanting to run up man's pockets, and I'm like do I know one of them?
Speaker 1:do I know one of them?
Speaker 3:do you um? Yeah, I think you know one that one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if I ain't gonna say no name, that motherfucker crazy.
Speaker 2:That's all I'm gonna say, yeah, has it worked out for them.
Speaker 3:But is that the one that's not my friend anymore?
Speaker 2:yeah, her crazy ass okay yeah mike, did it work out for yeah, like so the, the women you know they act like that. Does it work out past the money or that's just they get what they can and get out?
Speaker 3:I think, yeah, I think it's really they just they get whatever they can. But that's the thing too is I feel like you're kind of selling yourself too, because then you have, like you just have to keep it going and you have to keep doing that with multiple men, and I just don't like that. I don't like the energy exchange that's involved in that, like it's just. It's so taxing trying to put yourself out there to all these different dudes yeah, and you end up 38 alone alone exactly
Speaker 2:with nobody.
Speaker 1:Just tell the waitress don't bring that motherfucking cheesecake. Don't bring that whole cake Bruh.
Speaker 2:Don't bring that goddamn cake. That's a conversation in the car.
Speaker 1:I mean, you know, some people will still try to use you, but if you're sitting right there, man, I wish I would buy a cheesecake.
Speaker 2:You just let it happen. The whole cheesecake. The whole cheesecake was crazy.
Speaker 1:I just met you and I'm finna get you a birthday cake for you to go on about your business.
Speaker 2:You about to have a date with somebody else with my cheesecake.
Speaker 1:With my cheesecake. You finna go, you finna take this home and feed a whole bunch of niggas with this cake. We're not doing that. We're not the whole cheesecake. So then you know, ali, this goesie, this goes into the no Thinking Capital Day. Allie, you might like this. You might like this man who's on the no Thinking Capital Day my boy Shannon Sharp. Freaky ass. Allie, you know about my boy, shannon man. Would you have been that person that took that $10 million quick? What would you have done?
Speaker 3:Oh dude, I don't know a lot about the situation. I've read very surface-level things about that.
Speaker 1:We can, you know, of course, abruptly. Let you know what's going on. Long story short, your boy, shannon Sharp. He, an old, freaky ass man, I ain't gonna lie to you. He did some freaky things with some older. Well, he did one with an older woman back in the day. She claimed raped on him. It's actually out in the news now, but she never spoke. She said, because he said he was a powerful black man, she, he was scared and everything like that. But most recently he was messing with a 19 year old girl. Uh, only fans, right, only fans, only fans, only fans. And uh, in the video, in the video, um, she talking about you know he, he promised the black children and then promising the. You know he promised black children and promising. You know you been told that? You ain't never been told that a man ain't never told you he want to put a big black child in you. Big black baby is the word, that's what he said. He said big black baby, you ain't never heard of him that's what she said.
Speaker 1:Nobody never told you that before that.
Speaker 3:Okay, that had to be a white girl yeah, you stupid, but basically that happened.
Speaker 1:And now, in a situation where they were gonna offer the motherfucker 10 million, the lawyer in them, and they said no, 10 million to the girl, to the girl, just be quiet offer 10 million and not saying and that's why shannon sharp is no thank you half of the day the day. Because for me, for $10 million, what do you think? What could you tell on somebody for $10 million and you didn't sign a? What are those forms called NDA? You didn't sign an NDA. What could you do to somebody? Allie for $10?
Speaker 3:million.
Speaker 1:And not tell nobody.
Speaker 3:She didn't take the money. Did she take anything? Did they go to court, Like what went on with that?
Speaker 1:It's still pending. It's still pending.
Speaker 3:It's still pending. Okay, I mean so. My first thought honestly with all of that was why was he messing with a 19-year-old? That's crazy.
Speaker 2:He owes him too. He was 54.
Speaker 3:Yeah that's far as the other stuff, like I don't know what could have been going on for him to offer her that much to be quiet. But I mean, if he really wants her to go away that badly, I mean there has to be something there, I would assume.
Speaker 1:He got a. He has a hundred million dollar contract on the line that he can't sign until this goes away With all his endorsements and everything he got. It's a $100 million contract that he has right now.
Speaker 2:He can't sign Must be with. I mean not Barstool, he with.
Speaker 1:The Volume yeah for Club Shay Shay, yeah, yeah, he finna fuck that money up Before he even get it, because I feel like what kind of allegations?
Speaker 3:did she have?
Speaker 1:Well, besides somebody playing that man ass with a butt plug, allegedly, allegedly, I like hey, hey, for all purposes, allegedly, I like gotta put that word out there.
Speaker 2:We don't know nothing.
Speaker 1:I don't know nothing. Allegedly that man had his butt played with by this white girl.
Speaker 2:I don't know why else for 10 million. Well, million.
Speaker 1:Well, she said they had a relationship. She said no he went hard.
Speaker 3:Basically he didn't take the no this one time and then did it again, like he started their relationship before she turned like 19, but he started when she was younger they started at 19 like grooming or not.
Speaker 1:She was 19. Yeah, she was already an only fans girl first.
Speaker 3:She was already a freaky lady.
Speaker 1:She's already out there, so for me.
Speaker 3:That's why it's like.
Speaker 1:Well she was, though she was on OnlyFans giving up Coochie, so she got an older guy. She was an older guy, messed with him. So do you feel like that's wrong there? Because for me, don't play like you freaky and then when freaky shit happened. Now you want to play wolf.
Speaker 2:Morality. Morality and legality are two different things facts. So legally, morally, morally we can say it's wrong as fuck. Legally, she's an adult, correct?
Speaker 3:so yeah, I could see to both sides. Honestly I would say for hers I don't think she had any business messing with a man that was that much older than her just to try to get money out of him, because I feel like that's a certain level of extortion. But then from him I don't feel like he could be messing with her either, because I mean, that's where the kind of it becomes like a moral gray area, because why are you wanting to get with somebody that's that young?
Speaker 2:yeah, the disappointment in him is he didn't see the play. Like if you listen to them, calls how she talking. She set him up from the gate how she talking it. It sound like I'm recording you and I can't wait to play this to my lawyer I can't wait to give this shit to my lawyer right now, like he sound crazy. He even saying you know I'll do it in person because he let's hope you know like why are you messing with this?
Speaker 1:because he's trying. He's saying that she liked to role play, so he's saying the things that she was saying on the recording is part of the role play that they do, the RP, the real player shit.
Speaker 2:No, but I'm talking about that part.
Speaker 3:It started there. I heard it in the beginning.
Speaker 1:But, when no means no. Right, all of that but he's trying to say it's part of the role play, like she, like being Bro, hang, oppressed, raped, or you know whatever how I talk to you in the bedroom is not how I talk to you on the phone.
Speaker 2:It's not the same. It's two in the afternoon. Why are we talking like this?
Speaker 1:She's recording the whole time.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying how he didn't pick up on that.
Speaker 1:It's a weird fantasy, I think, because at the end of the day, who does that for real? For me, I've had my class of white women from back in the day. Me personally, you know, I I never. If a white girl told me back in college hey, I want you to act like you're, all you black guys, I want you to act like you're raping me. That to me is very scary. That's a problem, that's a but. Some women have fantasies like that no, 100, but I'm not king. I'm not. I'm not king. Shamingaming, I'm not kink. Shaming, no small story. I had a situation one time with a white woman. What I did was Listen and we don't judge. We listen and we don't judge.
Speaker 2:Just a little bit.
Speaker 1:It was a fair state. I was in college and she had a ferret, a little small, weasel looking thing, in her room. It really scared. I'm trying to tell this story. This is crazy, so I won't ever forget it. Her name was Brittany and she was a white girl and you know, Brittany yeah, brittany, brittany's got a marriage With you know White children and everything now so she knows who she is she does so.
Speaker 1:I was in Hallisey and it was her freshman year and and what happened was Me and my boy Cam. He was like bro, you know she like black man, she's from some part In Grand Rapids, michigan. I'm like, alright, cool, let me um. She definitely knows you, yeah.
Speaker 2:She definitely Somebody gonna know.
Speaker 1:So, hey, niggas, though so. So she was white, it was freshman year, so I won't forget. I come to her dorm and the weasel Little ferret thing Was in there and I'm like hey, he put that up. I don't really feel comfortable With this day free In a room with this, and she was like he ain't gonna mess with us, it's okay. So so, like most things, we're ready to do. You know what I mean? We have an intercourse, we fucking, so Tell me why. Um, she starts. She starts saying Put your, put your. Uh, she said fuck me, nigger. That's what she said to me. Oh shit.
Speaker 2:I thought we about to talk about this fair Bro.
Speaker 1:I thought the fair, I thought the fair. I thought the fair Was the end on the play, bro Hold on. The fair is coming. The fair is coming. I'm trying to figure out how the fair fit in the conversation.
Speaker 2:We went from the ferret to the KKK.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was like fuck me nigga, fuck me nigga. I'm like whoa and you did it though I was going, yeah, yeah, so after Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 2:There was no warning. Where did the ferret go? No, I didn't think she was going to do this at all, it was just I know I started choking.
Speaker 1:Did the ferret come out the cage? He was never in the cage.
Speaker 2:Hold on? Did your homeboy say hey, this is how she get off he?
Speaker 1:never hit.
Speaker 2:So he ain't hit, he just got some top ERs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ER Not nigga why you bring up the ferret, though. I'm finna tell you why. So, as she's doing, when you hear that in my mind I'm like I got to rush to one of this fucking harder because you tell me.
Speaker 2:You didn't turn into a motherfucking slave A slave, so that shit turns you on.
Speaker 1:It did a little bit. I ain't gonna lie. That's a fucking great, fucking massive woman. So the ferret. So I feel something on my back and the ferret, the ferret, jump on my back and start making a noise too. So I'm thinking so at this point, me and the ferret, some niggas Fucking this guy, that white woman. And listen, at this point, boy, it was the most. I didn't stop, though Y'all ran a train On Madison's wife.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the ferret.
Speaker 1:So to me With a ferret, he done, done this before. How he don't get on my back and just not go no where. So, so Cause, first of all, the hard R Turned you on so much you kept going I kept going. I'ma choke you, but I'm gonna keep going, and you were so into it that you didn't give a fuck, that there was a ferret on your back and I didn't know what a ferret was. Rob, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:His 18, 19 was totally different than mine. Oh man, that's some crazy. Yeah, brittany, bro, hold on, Hold on. So then it ends.
Speaker 1:So then it ends and it's like bus nut, yeah, yeah, yeah, after the soon nut bus. I just stopped and I just said, oh okay. And she just looked at me. She's like are you okay? And I'm like, yeah, she, she, definitely traumatized.
Speaker 1:You did y'all have a conversation nah I, I get up and she asked me if I'm okay and I said, um, yeah, ma I'm straight. She said you sure, she sure she says because I don't want no one to know about this what part she knew. What part she knew it was actually what part she talking about the ER part, the hard R. I was more concerned about this. Farrah on my back Fucking you called me a nigga. She said, yeah, keep fucking me nigga. I was like ooh, and Farrah just like ooh, and the Ferris is like he'd been here before he's like yeah, that was the Ferris tree.
Speaker 2:words Woo shit, but yeah, man. So Brittany, brittany Did you talk to?
Speaker 1:Brittany afterwards, was you ever a hard R again? I came back, I was a hard R again. And that Ferris came back, hey man. And that ferret came back. I'm up, hey man, oh man, but yeah, but that was, that was years ago and that story right there, that's a true.
Speaker 2:Listen, shout out to Brittany's husband.
Speaker 1:Hey Brittany's husband, y'all might got a cat In y'all house now. You ain't got no ferret, no more. You might have a cat. Shout out, shout out to the rest of the men that she did that to and I know she did, I wasn't the only one and I had to realize that, oh my God, she probably still doing it. Amen, no, she's married.
Speaker 2:That don't mean she stopped. Men need consent too, bro. That's the crazy part.
Speaker 1:That don't mean, she stopped.
Speaker 2:You was supposed to get consent bro.
Speaker 1:You ain't supposed to just from the back and pulling an inch when she dropped it on me. Yeah, yeah, the heart now hard, that's it, whoa. So I'm like. So you know, the stroke got, you know this. You see my face, we don't know no sir what would happen if I had to you rob, if, if I know it's over bro.
Speaker 2:It's over.
Speaker 1:There ain't no way in hell I can keep going after that, and she better hope she caught me in my mature stage, because I probably would have football kicked her ass in the back of the head. Mike, you couldn't be calling a nigga while getting hit.
Speaker 2:I mean I don't want nobody calling me an ER. That thing had a looseigger. While getting hit, I mean I don't want nobody calling me an ER.
Speaker 1:That thing had a loose cannon on me. I was like I'll be a nigger right now. You ever say this shit to me outside of here. Nigger, just so strong bro.
Speaker 2:It was. No matter who say it, they know a white woman.
Speaker 1:She was like, oh, nigger, like that. I said okay, but I didn't know no better. I was young, I was in the North, I was in the South, I was in the school up North. So for a white woman, a white girl, to just be like, yeah, fuck me, nigga, out of nowhere, and I ain't in the South, no more In the South, I expected to hear some crazy shit. I'm up North, boy threw me for a loop, but that was my story with Britney, though y'all you know that was a buck on moment right there. I got mold in the past, but that was just what I had thrown on y'all real quick. That that was. It did something to me. It changed me now. Now I don't know, I don't really go that route no more, I wouldn't do it talk about shock value.
Speaker 1:Bro, I was ready to just hear Fair rode that ride with me. Guys, we gotta get ready. We gotta do my favorite segment. Ali, you ready for the favorite segment? It's the Paz favorite segment. It's left on Red with Bucko. This is the segment where we, of course, I know we read the statement and from the statement we give our value and our feedback of what we will do in this situation, how we can lead this person in the situation they're in. Who's got me, tater, read it for me.
Speaker 2:I got you, but before we go.
Speaker 1:I got to make sure that you okay.
Speaker 2:You still have.
Speaker 1:PTSD behind you. About that about the ferret or the N-word, because I've been caught. Fuck the ferret. I'll say this you got trauma behind that story. I don't got trauma, but I'll say this that shit, it turned me on. Would you do it again?
Speaker 2:I'm going to plead the fifth. That shit is wild. Shout out to that Ferris. Shout out to Brittany and the Ferris.
Speaker 1:Brittany and the Ferris. Ferris State University, All right left on red with Bucko, All right. Hey guys, I am having a hard time accepting the truth and I don't know how to deal with it. My boyfriend went to sleep last night and his phone was unlocked. I went through it. I've seen messages. The contacts were saved as pizza hut and Chick-fil-A, and when I went to his browser history, he has a lot of porn saved and I hate porn. But he also has been searching for engagement rings. Should I confront him or chill out? My homegirl said he is a good man, I should forgive him.
Speaker 1:I want to be a wife but I can't take disrespect but I also love him. What should I do left on read with bucko? You know, to me I think this is so fucking funny because the hot texts go into this right here with truth and lies, the honesty and not. First of all, I want to go through this. She said that that nigga had niggas saying it's Chick-fil-A and pizza. They said that she got that. Nigga got bitches in there saying it's pizza and Chick-fil-A messages.
Speaker 2:Why Chick-fil-A?
Speaker 1:calling you on Sunday. She's like hey, you need to text me to talk about some. Your order ain't. Hey, boy, that shit. But my take, my take, men gotta do better, we have to. My take, my take, Men gotta do better, we have to. But he's looking at Engagement rings though, so he must love the bitch, but I I need to know what.
Speaker 2:What she found?
Speaker 1:She didn't really say she didn't say that she found. But besides the porn, besides the porn, she had to have found something Motherfucker named pizza and Chick-fil-A. No, I get it, but I don't think she found something.
Speaker 2:No, but. But she said, what should I do? I don't know what he did To say run.
Speaker 1:Because, true Cause, I mean to be honest, porn isn't shit.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, cause we just going with that, we just going off that Some women don't like that, some women do not like Niggas look at porn, yeah but they gotta grow up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, niggas, look at porn.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh wow.
Speaker 2:They do. We have a woman, Ali. How do you feel about it?
Speaker 3:True, I mean, I would say honestly, I'm not going to say that I haven't looked at porn. But I think also there's some men that take it too far when they're looking at certain things, they go overboard, and I think that's where I kind of start drawing the line, because I get that like I have needs myself. So I'm not going to sit here and say that the man that I'm with doesn't have needs and doesn't, you know, sometimes want to have variety. I'm also, you know, fairly open when it comes to my relationships. So I think that's a little bit different than some women, because I think some, especially ones that are, you know, wanting to only be monogamous, and you have to take that into account too. They don't want their man looking at other people, they just want to be, you know, the primary focus. They don't like sharing, they don't like seeing him with other you know other women, or even just, you know, fantasizing about them online. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3:Let me ask you this you said that looking at certain things, what, what would cross the line, looking at what, Um I mean. So for me primarily, and I think for me primarily, I think my biggest boundary when it comes to that kind of stuff is I really don't like only fans because I feel like it's more personal.
Speaker 1:And that's really just for me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just I don't like the spending money on other women when I feel like that's supposed to be for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I believe it translates to more than porn at that point, yeah, I get that You're supporting somebody.
Speaker 3:I don't like my man spending money on another woman like that. If we're trying to be serious and it also again depends on the context of the relationship, because I've had some where we discussed ahead of time. You know that we were going to be open, we were going to do certain things Like either you know you can go, do you? If you want to go and have like a separate date, that's fine. But understand that I'm also going to go and have a separate date and I've also had.
Speaker 3:You know I was married for five years. So I've had my marriage that was completely monogamous and you know there was nothing going on on the side at all. So it really just depends on what kind of relationship you have. And then also, if you can lay down, you know, that solid foundation of what you guys are wanting, what you're going to be doing together, what's not going to be OK, and then if you find out you know that they're doing something that was a boundary that was discussed before, what are you going to do? You know, going forward, are you going to actually try to stay and work it out? Are you going to leave? Or, you know, are you going to sit there and bitch about it?
Speaker 1:So then the conversation has to happen, correct? So then, do you feel like then, in this situation with the left arm of a bucko, she's saying she wants to be a. She's saying she wants to be a wife. She says she wants to be a wife, she wants to be a wife. She wanted to be his wife. Right, so you feel like then, with everything she's seen, what would you do in this situation If you went to the phone, I mean so one.
Speaker 3:He did not hide things very well, which I feel like represents a lack of care on his part, like either he just is, either he's stupid or he didn't care to hide it from her, which I think is disrespectful, because saving something as Pizza Hut and Chick-fil-A Like obviously if someone sees that they're not, you can go check a number like that on Google, you know, and see that it's not their actual number. So he didn't take more care to actually hide it from her. And I'm not saying it's right for someone to go through those lengths to hide things either. So don't misunderstand what I'm saying with that. But going and being that lackadaisical with your cheating, I feel like it's just blatant disrespect because you didn't care whether you got found out or not. So and it also depends I guess she said she saw messages from both of those contacts it depends on the uh, on the messages that were sent between them, because was he, you know, actually trying to go and take them out? Was it just like him getting pictures? Did he pay for those pictures?
Speaker 3:I just feel like I don't have enough context from her uh other than just to tell her, like I see, that she says she wants to be a wife. But just like um, one of your friends said, you know, she didn't say she wants to be his. So you, you can be a wife to, you know, a good man. You can find another man that wants to make you his wife. But I mean, if you don't see yourself, you know putting up with this, because obviously, if he's done it now and he's been hiding it for however long, he's probably going to do it again. If you're not okay with that, then I would suggest you go.
Speaker 1:Okay, the other part that I see is she said her homegirls said he is a good man and to forgive him. Ali, would your homegirls tell you to forgive a man if you caught him cheating?
Speaker 3:It really depends on which one I ask.
Speaker 2:That's fair.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so if I, if I asked the one that you know, we both know she would probably just tell me to stay with him, just to run up his pockets and get whatever I can out of him, I don't like her ass.
Speaker 1:That's fair.
Speaker 3:That's fair would probably tell me to either go to therapy with him to try to work it out and see if we could, you know, get to the root of the problem, find out what you know he's either lacking or lacking for me, something that I might not be fulfilling from him, see if we could work it out, and then if we need to part, then, you know, it might just end up being that, but I think for me, for myself, uh, I probably would want to see what it was that he was looking for, that he wasn't getting from me, first, before anything else, and then, if we can't get to some kind of resolution, or we can't get to where we are feeling fulfilled, or can't have a sit down and, you know, an adult conversation, then you know I would have to make myself be okay with leaving I like that take yeah, I like that take of course.
Speaker 2:Uh, we do need context. I'm gonna go with it. Let's say she saw some bullshit. Bigger picture for her to want to be a wife is why does he not want to be honest with you? And he gotta hide names and you hate porn like you you want to. Doesn't know you hate something. I bet you giving him hell about what he's doing, like it goes past porn and you clearly ain't had a conversation. If he's saving it, he's hiding it. He's hiding names. Y'all foundation fucked up. Y'all don't have a good relationship. So he probably trying to propose to just to keep you, but he ain't going to treat you like a wife Cause he ain't treating you like a wife now.
Speaker 3:No, I agree with wife.
Speaker 2:Now I think he doesn't feel safe enough to come out right, and if I don't feel safe with you, I can't commit 50 years. She didn't.
Speaker 1:She didn't say she caught him cheating. She said the names weren't right, so could these be female friends? That's right, because what?
Speaker 2:I mean, true, I got. I hear my co-'s name and a co-worker say something crazy, but I didn't. I, I can't control it. I can end the conversation, I can move forward, but the fact that I got a hotter name, I don't think they're on the same page, right, that's what goes back to. Like you said early on, it's being honest, being, you know, open with communication. But I got female friends that I'm not giving up yeah, I mean you to be in a committed relationship, married or not. What are your boundaries?
Speaker 1:Because I'm just assuming if she was as blunt as she was with the porn, she would have said I seen messages and he was fucking somebody.
Speaker 2:Or she downplaying it, or she downplaying it.
Speaker 1:yeah, Don't want her business out there. She might put half of it out there.
Speaker 2:He don't trust you be honest with and you don't trust him because you're going through his phone and he got a hot shit. And if a man's saving porn, it's because he know you looking through his shit. So he gotta get back to it.
Speaker 1:You know how you gotta find that moment right there, that at three minutes and 45 seconds this bitch is going crazy.
Speaker 2:Saving porn is crazy in itself In 2025, it is. But that's like when you was a teenager you hear shit and lie to your mama.
Speaker 1:I know for a fact so she's acting like his mother. I think she controlling his fuck. She might be controlling his mother, I think she tripping with him.
Speaker 2:I think he love her, but he's sick of your shit, can I?
Speaker 3:ask a question. Yeah, okay, so y'all saying that men, you know, are just gonna wanna watch porn? So would y'all feel some type of way if your woman was watching porn or no?
Speaker 2:No, I approve that message. I approve porn. What roles?
Speaker 1:is. I guess there's another man she's watching I don't care about that, like men on men, or what are you talking about? Because all porn has a man and a woman. There's always a dick going in some coochie what I watch, unless you watch it.
Speaker 2:Well, I can watch two women.
Speaker 1:I can watch two women you know I'm saying I get women. Well, you said it has a man in it. It should have a man in it, unless it's a woman or a woman.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I wouldn't take it personally. I don't care Now if you got to watch it every time or you need it.
Speaker 1:I feel a type of way, if you search up Big Black Cock every goddamn time I got a problem. Bbc every time, like every time. That's a little extreme, but it's the truth. Maybe, that's just the. Maybe that's the category. Maybe that's the category. We can't search something else up, we can't search up. Ebony, we can't search up.
Speaker 3:I mean niggas have favorites.
Speaker 1:I'm real particular about what I like. See what I'm saying. She knows exactly what the fuck. What's your?
Speaker 3:favorite category? I don't even know what the name would be. I like to watch niggas stroke themselves in the mirror.
Speaker 1:Whoa, for real. That's not in my search category.
Speaker 2:I didn't know that was a category. I didn't know that was a category.
Speaker 1:Whatever the fuck that is, it's not in my.
Speaker 3:Damn.
Speaker 1:Like search up people being stroked. I ain't never. I don't know what they're called.
Speaker 3:I ain't supposed to Look. I could go in depth, but I don't.
Speaker 2:I could go in depth, but I don't want y'all to judge me. Is there a ferret?
Speaker 3:or a nigger.
Speaker 1:We listen and don't judge In the mirror. No, we listen and don't judge. That's what I was about to ask Bucko what's in your search category.
Speaker 2:What's in our search category.
Speaker 1:I got some shit though I like. I ain't gonna lie. We know what you like Slaves. I like I like I like watching old people. Fuck, nah bro, you're tricking me.
Speaker 2:Nah, for real Old men and old women.
Speaker 1:Are you talking about just like Porn from like the 80s or actual old people? Like a nigga that needs some Viagra on an old bitch. Hold on, that's a search, yeah it's hey, it's old, amateur, old sex. But you're talking about old people, not porn from the 70s, not 60s or 70-year-olds. I'm talking about like 54-year-olds getting it in.
Speaker 3:That's not that old. I thought you meant like rape or year olds. I'm talking like Like 54 year olds Getting it in. That's not that old. I thought you meant Like rape or pussy. No, I'm talking about Like mature people Fucking.
Speaker 1:I don't like watching Young people fucking. I got you Me personally, hey man, you just don't we listen and we don't joke, we listen and we don't joke. And then, of course, if they had like a category For like, like, like you know, like Black people getting Fucked my master's wife we know you love that.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure there's some. There's some strange shit out there.
Speaker 1:You got one mic, rob. What's yours? Nah, I don't have one. You don't got a favorite, I just you got a favorite, where it pop up on screen.
Speaker 2:My thing is non-white women, that's it.
Speaker 3:I ain't gonna lie. I mean Buck.
Speaker 1:You knew I was a dominatrix for a while, oh shit, you knew this and you didn't say anything.
Speaker 2:I didn't, oh, I do, but I Nah you didn't live the life 28. Married so you divorced now.
Speaker 3:I'm divorced now. I just got divorced in January.
Speaker 2:It's been ongoing for two years so newly divorced.
Speaker 1:Were you a dominatrix to him?
Speaker 3:no, not to me, to your husband, how long though?
Speaker 2:so I need, I need clarification I mean, yeah, I do a few things to him I mean, I would so like.
Speaker 1:What is so dominates was that like, like, did you cook him? What's the cook?
Speaker 3:oh no. So cuckold is like making them watch, basically when you either get fucked by someone else or fuck someone else. But no, I didn't do that to him oh, so what?
Speaker 1:so like what is? What does all this entail? Well, dominatrix is really what what the man want to give up a woman yeah, he can like getting tied up, so our man was getting tied up on a leash. You had him on a leash like a dog like a dog I'm okay with getting beat on, but getting beat on like that is kind of just too freaky, I think.
Speaker 3:I mean I've had a few different things that I've used, and I mean you know also, you know I'm a breeder, I'm a dog trainer, so I've got tools already.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, so you was using the real shit. I know you got them Dobermans over there. You got them dogs over there. I know you got Dobermans you got dopamines like you sell dopamines?
Speaker 3:I do, yeah, I have five me. Me and my wife want some dopamines, but they fire. Yeah, I also show them.
Speaker 1:I show in akc, ukc, ibca, international shows you got, you got the fine color, uh dopamines I have not had one of those yet.
Speaker 3:I've only had two blues in my entire line. But they're also really prone to uh, color dilution alopecia, so I'm trying to breed away from that before I get down to the other colors, so they don't have that issue got you.
Speaker 1:That's the uh, that's the like, the light, light, khaki, brown or the cream color ones yeah, they're the lighter, they're a dilution of red, so yeah, these are one of them.
Speaker 2:conversations I can't be part of. I just I don't know shit about dogs I don't be part of, I just listen. I don't know shit about dogs, I don't know, I don't know a lot about dogs, but I like to listen, though.
Speaker 1:That's pretty cool, I'm telling you, that's the next dog that's on our list. Doverman, she got some fire dogs. Now you, you know, with all them dogs you got, you ain't never went and got like a real shot. You know what? Yeah, we finna. Do the closing remarks. Just tell them to log off. Do your closing remarks?
Speaker 2:We can do a whole pod with Ali so could, so could.
Speaker 1:I don't need you to come in person. I need you to come in here and give your warm embrace on the pod with us. Man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:I can do that Closing remarks.
Speaker 1:Typically, should I bring my tools or no, bring your tools. Yeah, remarks typically bring your tools. Yeah, now you keep the tools at home. Yeah, keep that dog you keep the tools inside, uh um, closing remarks, closing remarks, brothers, any closing remarks, what you got, what you got where we're gonna close with who going first, you know if you need me, I can go for it y'all ain't gonna lie. Y'all fuck me up with the goddamn tools.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry um, I'm so sorry, my closing, my closing remarks, uh, I would say this uh, going into may, going into the, you know, the next quarter of the year, getting ready, uh, well, actually saying another quarter, but going into this next part of the year, I would say don't be afraid to be who you are, live your life how you want to live your life. Don't be afraid to be judged if you into what you into rock with it if you into what you into, do it.
Speaker 1:But understand this, though that's all I'm going to say that your perspective on what you do, understand that people will still have a perspective about you, no matter what you do in your own life. Don't care about it, but understand that bullet's there and people always judge you for that. I don't personally. I got a tatter on me. Only God can judge me, but I understand the flaws of what people judge me in my life that can affect me. Now, that's my take. That's my closing remark be open.
Speaker 1:I like that live in your truth. I feel like everybody needs to live live in their truth. Stop doing things based off what other people expect from them, ask of them. Live in your truth. Be truthful with the people around you. Be truthful People expect from them, ask of them. Live in your truth. Be truthful with the people around you. Be truthful with the people that you're involved with. Communication is key and don't be afraid to go get what you want. I feel like a lot of people are afraid to go get what they want.
Speaker 1:So kind of what I said last time live your purpose, Find your purpose, live your purpose.
Speaker 2:Live your purpose. I like that. Stop lying to yourself, just going with what we was talking about today. Honesty starts with you. Wear your shit, live it. Kind of cosigning that. But also I hate the life's too short. Lifelong is fuck. If it get cut short you couldn't control it. But living it. If you get 80 years, that's a lot of time. Why are you worried about other shit? Why are you worrying about what can make it short? It's only short if you're not living the life you want to live.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a lot of people give up because they're like life's too short, I'm too old I never made it connect with the people you want to connect with.
Speaker 2:Find your happiness. But enjoy the moment. Get off your phone, get off instagram. Make your memories, for you love somebody, tell them you love them, live in it. That person you ain't talked to, that you need to talk to, why are you making them be the bigger person? Just be the bigger person if life's too short. But life is long and it's longer when you're happy, when you're enjoying it and when you got somebody to share it with kids, spouse, friends, whoever.
Speaker 1:Change because you want to change and make life long, not too short. I like that. I like that. That was damn good, allie, we appreciate you for coming in. You're going to have to come back now in the flesh. I feel like we keep messing your name up. She said Allie.
Speaker 2:I keep fucking up.
Speaker 1:I said Allie again.
Speaker 2:That's Buck North South Day Allie, like Muhammad. I said Ali Ali, I keep fucking up. I said Ali again.
Speaker 1:That's Buck Norse out there, ali Ali, like Muhammad. No fight, ali, yeah, ali, ali, ali, ali, ali, ali, ali, ali, ali, ali, ali, ali, ali, ali, ali, ali, ali, ali with you the long way, the strong way. There's no wrong way when you fucking with bucko. So I appreciate you for always tapping in and fucking with us. Again to my great co-hosts I appreciate y'all for taking the time, man. Again, this was awesome. I love what we did, man. I appreciate y'all for tapping in. Appreciate y'all for listening If you made this far and you listening. Appreciate you for tapping in. Absolutely. Make sure y'all go listen to all platforms Apple, amazon, spotify. We're here for y'all, man. Never no capping our rap.
Speaker 1:Never, never, never Again. This is your boy, dj Bucko. This is another episode of no Capping my Rap. We listen and we don't judge. No cap, Just a little bit.